No, I understood exactly what you meant.
No, I understood exactly what you meant.
Peer Mediator wrote:You are over generous
never
You have to run the whole bend on the line with lane 2 to cover 3.1m. Your analysis is way off
nonsense
try more like 3.2m
On the first ben for a start he is on the inside of lane 1 for the first half of the curve
utter drivel
at 15.4 - 16.1s his foot is on line
and then runs the second 50m just wide of the middle of the lane. That is c 1.5m extra
drivel
his L foot is on line at 24.9s
he ran 1st bend too wide
No way is that 2.75m
it's ungenerous
at worst 2.75m
see above & watch vid
Running wide in lane 1 is not 3m
it is
you can't work out maths ???
pi * width
???
You have to run the entire bend on the line to get 3m
no
it will get you more like 3.1m
maloofi got a full 2.75+ on 1st bend
He does this on the 2nd bend, where you give 3.5m
inept
he runs 5s of vid in lane 2
It's nonsense
no
it's nonsense reply
try 5s out in lane 2 & whatever else shown, nothing lane 1
He runs c 14m extra in total and only an extra 2m on the last lap
try again
he runs 18.75+
& that is not generous
That's equivalent to a 52.5 in a 3:32.1 race
no
get a brain
he lost enough to 52.4
Only someone delusional would give one athlete an extra 18+m in this race
what is this nonsense ???
where am i mentioned ???
And then 21m for another athlete in this race
what is this nonsense ???
where am i mentioned ???
Coe runs at least 10m further than Makhloufi did in London, yet Ventolin states only 3m difference, by giving 21m in this thread:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5070489&page=5
show every cm to whoever
maloofi ran 3'31+ route-1 with 52+ kick
There is no consistency in his so called analysis from one thread to another
drivel
you think huge maths guys here can't work out
1.0 * pi
for extra distance on bends ???
Makhloufi is so dirty he stinks.
Comparing his time to those of prior dopers, to prove he is clean, is laughable.
Drugs work, period. That is why he never did anything before, and has not done anything since.
drugs work and doping wins gold medals
that's been the reality of track and field the past 40 years
ventolin and others can inhabit their fantasy world if it makes them happy
Peer mediator wrote:
I don't agree with his views on blood transfusions or EPO not being effective for elite athletes either!!
I do.
Neither Paula nor Haile used those methods.
so hermens didn't hook up haile to his doping contacts?
and somehow haile was able to beat all comers during the height of the epo boom when there was no test?
"actually", you are a moron, but more than that, you are a nobody.
and you are a nobody and a fool...
haile was always on epo
but was starting to get on abit in age department .
then Hermenes introduced him and bekele to
the powers of MICERA abouts 2002 which wasnt tested for
until olympic 2008 and never retrospectively.
just look at the progression of his times
not the same for afew years until
2003 .
then dropped some of best times in 10000m
and confident to do 5000m again .
doped marthon world record.
THE power of micera , third generation epo
was the best of the lot ,
no way would bekele ran times did without it
similarly with ramzi and wariner .
obvious reason micera was never tested retrospectivly
in athletics !
some big names would start to pop up and dear
iaaf cant have that .
we have athletes legacy at stake here
they just go with story that in athletes never used micera until
came out officially in 2006 or so.
ramzi could never of possibly using it at worlds in
2005 . never tested for though,
i would say that would test 2005 worlds if thought that
just ramzi but others and dont know if even store blood
from worlds ,then or now .anyone know.
Consistency wrote:
That is why he never did anything before, and has not done anything since.
What does that prove about drugs other than that you didn't pay attention to his career before 2012?
as for paula doping !
like chinese women records done similarly
epo just doesnt get up hematocrit high enough in women
perfect for training and see times produces
but need other methods like blood transfusions
to get hematocrit way up for race day .
and et voila chinese and maratahon records easily explained.
and obvious only certain nations and athletes in certain
position to used bagged blood at time .
and obviously such methods off cards nowadays due to
high hct showing up on blood passport ,
same for new generation epo,s
unfortunately never going to be able to get same benfit
as before for shorter long distances .
records might go if new powerful type PED Similar to
gw501516 finally arrive on scene.
hey?? wrote:
so hermens didn't hook up haile to his doping contacts?
and somehow haile was able to beat all comers during the height of the epo boom when there was no test?
Hermens had never been a coach or anything of Haile, he was just a race agent, he was just entering Haile for races. Also, it was the era when western athletes were taking epo. It's not hard for eastern Africans to beat white runners whether doped or not.
yes hermens uses the spanish doping doctors for homeopathy
rather a waste of talent you might say
Colorado miler wrote:
What I wrote down was not hard evidence, just suspicious stuff. If you think El G was clean then you also may think the entire Tour de France peleton was clean and Lance was framed.
What you can't deny is the rampant doping problem in Morocco. With many positives including Ramzi's at the 2008 Olympics, recently Laalou, Goumri, Selsouli...(the list goes on and on) has put a giant question mark on all of their track athletes. If these athletes worshipped El G and wanted to be like him and he was clean, the top Moroccans would not all be cheating to be top athletes. The circumstantial evidence is highly stacked against El G.
ramzi was not even representing morocco when he got busted .
the other names you mentioned were not even from the same generation as el G .
was aouita on PED's too because some moroccans tested positive 25 years later ?
how many 100 meter american sprinter , male and female , got busted ? does that put a question mark on every single american athlete ?
lots of baseless skepticism in here :
" el G was not clean because some moroccans pissed hot !! "
" el G was not clean because he never ran the 800 !!! "
get real......
farfan wrote:
was aouita on PED's too because some moroccans tested positive 25 years later ?
Pushing PEDs on the athletes he coached in Australia as the national distance coach didn't help his reputation
aouita was on everything he could get his hands on
same as every morrocan
he didn't have epo that's all
the next generation gained another 2-3 seconds when got epo in the early 90s
drug testing has now almost wiped the north africans out of world class distance running thankfully
truthdium wrote:
Sometimes all you need is the eyeball test. El Guerrouj simply looked doped. His form never deteriorated; he almost looked robotic.
He ran 3:26 which is a laughable time. Seriously? Nobody's come close to that time since the end of the EPO era. It's not like El G is so significantly physically different than everybody else--that's not what accounts for it. Even Bolt, what with his obvious physical difference, is accused of doping all the time (and rightfully so).
No, El G doped simply because what he did was unbelievable. This is an era when Fermin Cacho could waddle his way to a 3:28 and hitting 3:31 was as easy as showing up. And Morceli?? Are you kidding me? Guy was an old codger running 3:27...
Moroccan science projects all the way
Asbel Kiprop
What temperature does EPO freeze at?
kiprop clean as a whistle HAHA