Why is this still being debated? The guy cut as many, many do.
I don't care to sift through all these pages, why is the argument still raging?
Why is this still being debated? The guy cut as many, many do.
I don't care to sift through all these pages, why is the argument still raging?
New Jorker wrote:
To the dolts who expect some of us who know Kip to reveal our real names- are you F'n CRAZY?? Dan Baxley is innocent- look what you did to him. Kip Litton is innocent- look what you did to him. We are innocent also but have no interest in you exercising your juvenile and depraved minds to drag us through the mud. Case closed.
Kip is guilty of cheating and he could have been charged with larceny by the Missoula Montana Police in 2010 for cheating and then requesting his award be sent to him. I believe the prize was a wine basket of sorts. Luckily the Missoula RD just DQ'ed him and didn't report him to the Missoula police.
New Jorker wrote:
To the dolts who expect some of us who know Kip to reveal our real names- are you F'n CRAZY?? Dan Baxley is innocent- look what you did to him. Kip Litton is innocent- look what you did to him. We are innocent also but have no interest in you exercising your juvenile and depraved minds to drag us through the mud. Case closed.
CORRECTION:
Kip Litton - guilty as can be. West Wyoming Marathon? Shoe changes during races? C'mon now. Kip, time to come out and confess.
Dan Baxley - I believe innocent but retarded.
Idiot, WhatAn wrote:
New Jorker wrote:To the dolts who expect some of us who know Kip to reveal our real names- are you F'n CRAZY?? Dan Baxley is innocent- look what you did to him. Kip Litton is innocent- look what you did to him. We are innocent also but have no interest in you exercising your juvenile and depraved minds to drag us through the mud. Case closed.
CORRECTION:
Kip Litton - guilty as can be. West Wyoming Marathon? Shoe changes during races? C'mon now. Kip, time to come out and confess.
Dan Baxley - I believe innocent but retarded.
+1
Crimster wrote:
Rebuttal?
Buehler? Buehler? Buehler?
That's what I thought.
Do you know that people can't respond to you until you submit the other part of the post?
Kip Litton did this because he is inspired by Shakespeare. He did it to get a good laugh out of himself and his dental office staff.
Dan Baxley may have worked with Litton to craft the tale
The Animal Within wrote:
Why is this still being debated? The guy cut as many, many do.
I don't care to sift through all these pages, why is the argument still raging?
Because Rojo was bored...
...no word yet whether alcohol was involved...
New Jorker wrote:
Kip Litton is innocent- look what you did to him.
1. MADE UP a race that didn't exist. BUILT A WEBSITE AND INSERTED FAKE RESULTS for this fake race.
2. CHANGED SHOES in the middle of a race.
3. CHANGED SHORTS in the middle of another race.
4. HID RACE NUMBER in dozens of races.
5. STARTED RACE FIVE MINUTES AFTER THE GUN in dozens of races.
All with no explanation.
Oh yeah, he seems innocent.
I have never spoken to Dan Baxley and fail to believe that he even exists as someone who has posted on this or any thread until ROJO provides proof that he has.
In addition, if it's proven that he has, I still wouldn't care unless he answered my very easy questions which prove MAJOR "circumstantial evidence" which lead to guilt.
Then don't sift through any pages, who asked you?
Do you know that the questions were laid out for you and others many pages ago and you never responded to one? Do you know how dumb that makes you look? Still living in your parent's basement, eh?
Dan Baxley does exist, unless he is a fictional character who is really Kip himself, not unlike the case with the director of West Wyoming Marathon, Richard Rodriguez.
Kevin52 wrote:
If it is this Dan Baxley Who was at U of M at about the right time...
Dan Baxley's Education
Northwestern University - Kellogg School of Management
1992 – 1995
University of Michigan
BA, Ecoonomics
1981 – 1984
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-baxley/6/b9a/9b8He is a snake oil salesman:
http://www.vorteccyclone.com/And ECO whackjob:
http://www.oneearthfinancial.net/...If this is the one I wouldn't believe a word he says
Crimster wrote:
Do you know that the questions were laid out for you and others many pages ago and you never responded to one? Do you know how dumb that makes you look? Still living in your parent's basement, eh?
More personal attacks from the bullies that constantly attack Dr. Litton; why am I not surprised?
Trollist the First wrote:
Crimster wrote:Do you know that the questions were laid out for you and others many pages ago and you never responded to one? Do you know how dumb that makes you look? Still living in your parent's basement, eh?
More personal attacks from the bullies that constantly attack Dr. Litton; why am I not surprised?
Once you, or others, debunk the WWM fiasco (at the very least), you should not be surprised.
Trollist the First wrote:
Crimster wrote:Do you know that the questions were laid out for you and others many pages ago and you never responded to one? Do you know how dumb that makes you look? Still living in your parent's basement, eh?
More personal attacks from the bullies that constantly attack Dr. Litton; why am I not surprised?
So are you saying Kip is innocent?
Also, according to the New Yorker article, Kip had written to Wejo to complain about the attacks and included that because he had served on the dental ethics board he understands these kinds of things. Mark Singer's research revealed that Kip had in fact NEVER served on such a board.
We might as well continue to trash dr Litton since what we are saying is clear as night and day. Facts are facts, and a libel lawsuit is not possible. So trash away. And Litton why the F don't you stop trolling here and admit what you did?
Rojo successfully trolling his own board.
Gotta keep those page views up somehow.
The most fascinating part about this whole thing to me is that kip (or a great kip impersonator) has repeteatedly complained about his posts being deleted, but not one time has he ever complained about the existence of this thread or the original thread. What does that tell you? It tells me that on some level kip enjoys the attention.
rupp-certified saladbar wrote:
New Jorker wrote:Kip Litton is innocent- look what you did to him.
1. MADE UP a race that didn't exist. BUILT A WEBSITE AND INSERTED FAKE RESULTS for this fake race.
2. CHANGED SHOES in the middle of a race.
3. CHANGED SHORTS in the middle of another race.
4. HID RACE NUMBER in dozens of races.
5. STARTED RACE FIVE MINUTES AFTER THE GUN in dozens of races.
All with no explanation.
1) previously addressed, but the race was not "made up". There was a web site to pre register, which a dozen or so did. There was a woman for on site reg and course maps. Just because no one else showed up doesn't mean Kip couldn't run. There is nothing illegal about being the only participant in a race. He should not have allowed his friend to add names to the results, but he copped to this right from the beginning. Despite being improper, this actually had absolutely no effect on anyone. If the names were not added, would all you conspiracy theorists still be critcising this race? This entire event affected nobody, and yet Kip was completely honest about it.
2) previously addressed but in all his races there was only one shoe change and it was because Kip was warming up in his trainers and didn't have time to retrieve them before the gun went off. He started the race and a couple minutes later when he got to his racers, he stopped & changed (maybe 25 secs?) during the race in front of other runners. No big deal.
3) previously addressed, but there was never any change of clothing or shorts. As the races progressed he simply removed his top layers. Most runners do this.
4) previously addressed but when his bib was on his shorts, his shirts would hang over and obscure the number. Happens to lots of runners.
5) previously addressed but it was part of the fund raising. Do you have ADD?
So see, no cheating, just things that could get twisted to look like other things. You don't have to like him, but at least you now know there was no cheating.
Oh yeah, he seems innocent.
This just in-
Writers thrive on controversy and sensationalism.
Truth? What truth? They don't need no stinkin' truth!
PLEASE help me to understand this:
"He started the race and a couple minutes later when he got to his racers, he stopped and changed (maybe 25 secs?) during the race in front of other runners. No big deal."
What drugs are you on? He started running the race and couple minutes later while into the race he gets his RACERS FROM WHERE????????????????
He laid them by the side of the road and was jogging around in his trainers????? Sell much miracle water lately?
The gun went off and he stopped where he laid them down and changed in a record 25 seconds in front of other runners?????? What other runners???????
Where you there to see him change into racing flats after the race started and witnessed other runners seeing this????? No you weren't now were you???????
Now I've heard it all.
He removed top layers of clothing in a hot Solstice 10k race in Michigan???? Are you insane?????? He started at the back of the pack as seen in a photo, and somehow ran so fast that not ONE witness has come forward to claim that he went flying by at 5:30 pace if not faster, NOT ONE????
The only twisting being done on here is by you.
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