Without a crazy weight gain program, how long would it take and what training strategy would you use?
Without a crazy weight gain program, how long would it take and what training strategy would you use?
6-12 months. Avoid all exercise.
pr100 wrote:
6-12 months. Avoid all exercise.
this^^
This is an idiotic question.
There are runners like myself that run about 2:30 on talent alone. I don't need to put much special training in to pop that time.
Then there are those on the other end of the spectrum where 2:30 is their absolute max ability.
So somewhere between 3 months - 5 years
8 months completely sedentary?
There are too many factors, you can't BS your way through a marathon quite like you could a 5k or 10k.
I think it would be how long until a 15:00 5k'er can only run 19 flat
prince albert_ wrote:
This is an idiotic question.
There are runners like myself that run about 2:30 on talent alone. I don't need to put much special training in to pop that time.
Then there are those on the other end of the spectrum where 2:30 is their absolute max ability.
So somewhere between 3 months - 5 years
Gonna have to call BS.
Nobody runs 2:30 on talent alone. Go sit on a couch for two years (no working out, no swimming, no biking, no running, no hiking, no sports, no more walking more than it takes to get to the fridge and back...) and then see what you can do. That's your "talent alone" capability. And I guarantee you it is not 2:30.
I took 4 months because of injury and I was equal to, or less than than 15:27 shape. I raced after 4 months with a friend who called me out and I ran a 16:57.
~25 years
Jobby Hogger wrote:
Without a crazy weight gain program, how long would it take and what training strategy would you use?
Jobby Hogger wrote:
Without a crazy weight gain program, how long would it take and what training strategy would you use?
Lots of biking for 6 months. Then a marathon would hurt like hell after 10 miles or so, and you would be forced to slow down more and more.
Youngcoach wrote:
I took 4 months because of injury and I was equal to, or less than than 15:27 shape. I raced after 4 months with a friend who called me out and I ran a 16:57.
That's a 10% time gain in 4 months. (You probably were doing something other than sitting on a couch for those four months but let's work with it)
Starting from 2:30 we get the sequence:
Start: 2:30
4 Months: 2:45
8 Months: 3:01:30
12 Months: 3:19:39
16 Months: 3:39:37
Doesn't sound too far off for a dedicated couch potato training regimen. Of course, with some athletically oriented activities the progression toward snaildom would be substantially slowed down.
I hiked 3 days out of the week at altitude. I did zero real training/conditioning no ab work, nothing.
Youngcoach wrote:
I hiked 3 days out of the week at altitude. I did zero real training/conditioning no ab work, nothing.
OK, thanks for clarifying. So, let's very conservatively estimate that you would lose 12% (instead of 10%) in four months on a rigorous couch potato regimen. Then the sequence would go:
Start: 2:30
4 Months: 2:48
8 Months: 3:08:10
12 Months: 3:30:44
And our 2:30 runner transforms into a 3:30 runner in only one year. Of course this is not an exact science but it does show how quickly one can go from very good to a 'hobby jogger' status. And it does give the lie to folks who claim there are no potential 2:30 guys among the hundreds of thousands of 3:30 - 4:30 hobby joggers out there.
Jobby Hogger wrote:
Without a crazy weight gain program, how long would it take and what training strategy would you use?
Probably years of inactivity. There are stories of runners not lacing a trainer on for 5 years and still being under 3 hours...
With an EXTREME training program, this could easily be done in two months.
Tie subject down, feed intravenously, clean as necessary, do not allow ANY voluntary muscle contractions. In two months he'd have a hard time walking.
WantToTryLSD wrote:
Probably years of inactivity. There are stories of runners not lacing a trainer on for 5 years and still being under 3 hours...
Those stories are...well, stories. The ones that are true involve guys who were quite active in other physical activities during those five years.
With zero physical activity for two years only the super talented (think Olympic medal level) could break 3 hours.