RE: What is the single darkest moment in human history?

[quote]asdfaafdafasd wrote:

The disease was pretty much random chance. Europeans just happened to have the deadlier crap. The rest was noise. Plagues are diffrent type of bad than the ones with conscious human thought.

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There was a lot of conscious human thought involved. Certainly plagues were a huge factor, especially early on with Europeans on the East Coast and in South America. But later on there were too many instances of U.S. Soldiers and settlers wiping out villages for it to just be written off as a plague.

In terms of numbers its definitely not as bad as Stalin's ethnic cleansing. I'm not equating one man's mania with Communism, but he killed around 20 million people I think. There were not that many people on the North American continent pre - Columbus.

The exposure of the Kardashian family to the world.

Texas Toast wrote:There was a lot of conscious human thought involved. Certainly plagues were a huge factor, especially early on with Europeans on the East Coast and in South America. But later on there were too many instances of U.S. Soldiers and settlers wiping out villages for it to just be written off as a plague.

Actually, there's only one clearly documented instance of this.

Also, Europeans were not all immune. At the time smallpox was endemic and routinely killed hundreds of thousands. Common sense says that intentionally spreading smallpox was not a safe or sensible thing to try to do given the deaths it would also cause among Europeans.

The big picture is that there have been epidemics throughout human history, and plenty of them could count as dark days -the Black Death (75 to 200 million dead), influenza in 1918 (50 - 100 million dead), AIDS (30 million dead).

The current estimates were that there were 75 to 120 million native americans pre columbus. The accounts from settlers had the population in the 5-10 million range but those were the survivors of the initial plague that killed 90% of the population. Everything after that (military action, small pox blankets,...) is noise.You can blame the europeans for that but it would be like blaming the Mongols for causing the black death in europe. Yeah it started over there but it wasn't like anyone said this would be a good way to kill off 100 million white guys. By random chance I mean that some people think Syphilis was a new world disease. It just killed like 5 million in the initial wave. That is bad. But it isn't anything like the plague the europeans were carrying around that killed 60+million. It some what possible(europe being a cesspool though did help their odds) the diseases could have been reversed.

Texas Toast wrote:

[quote]asdfaafdafasd wrote:

The disease was pretty much random chance. Europeans just happened to have the deadlier crap. The rest was noise. Plagues are diffrent type of bad than the ones with conscious human thought.

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There was a lot of conscious human thought involved. Certainly plagues were a huge factor, especially early on with Europeans on the East Coast and in South America. But later on there were too many instances of U.S. Soldiers and settlers wiping out villages for it to just be written off as a plague.

In terms of numbers its definitely not as bad as Stalin's ethnic cleansing. I'm not equating one man's mania with Communism, but he killed around 20 million people I think. There were not that many people on the North American continent pre - Columbus.

brunk wrote:

The Holocaust pails in comparison to the atom bomb or the rise of Islam.

The creation of Zi*nism has given us a century of misery and may end the world. Your hatred of Islam is a direct byproduct of Zi*nist propaganda for example.

Along with my inability to properly spell out Zi*nism without my message being bounced by the letsrun guardians

Are you sure it wasn't 2000 when we elected a guy that couldn't prevent the largest terrorist attack on US soil, drastically expanded the social programs by giving seniors cheap drugs, ran up huge deficits, started a 10 year war, and then to top it off destroyed the US economy causing the deficits to soar to 1.3 trillion in his last year to go along with 10% unemployment? 5 years later and we are still fixing these blunders Besides even if you don't like the 2012 result, wouldn't you say the 2008 was worse? McCain was at least an american patriot and not a tax cheat. I have no clue how he would have governed but I would have at least respected him.

Irvine Timmy wrote:

The 2012 US Presidential election.

When this thread was started.

Haiti's history.

The day the first gun was fired.

When I turned my back on the Valar to attack Morgoth at Angband to recover the Silmarils.

don't want no empathy,

I want u to stick it in me

Only two stories today in the Boston Globe on the Holocaust.

We should feel lucky.

some other random ideas wrote:

Hiroshima

Nagasaki

Dresden

Pol Pot's murderous regime

Hutus and Tutsis working to exterminate each other

Hitler's Holocaust

extermination of the Beothuk

Breivik in Norway

Spanish Inquisition

Guy asks for "the single" darkest and dipshit here wants to show the world he knows all the horrible periods. What part of single do you not understand?