things that make you go hmmmmm
things that make you go hmmmmm
it is so impressive that it is hard to believe. but then if you think about the decline for normal mortals and then for those with great talent (this guy could have run 28 or better had he started running at the normal age), and it becomes a little easier to believe. I'm running near my best ever in my mid 40s, so if you posit significant decline for a 28:00 guy, maybe that becomes possible. But to even be able to do the training without injury at 60 is incredible.
Some lunatic wrote:
things that make you go hmmmmm
I believe the race result is legal. Just curious, will he undergo PED testing anytime soon?
My hat's off to him. Pretty impressive!
Much respect.
anyone know his open pr for 10k?
michiganrunner48 wrote:
anyone know his open pr for 10k?
The following single age records from
http://www.arrs.netshow the progression Of Martin. He could well have run faster times when younger than 49.
49y192d 30:59 Martin Rees (WAL)
51y 22d 31:30 Martin Rees (WAL)
53y362d 31:45 Martin Rees (WAL)
54y116d 32:04 Martin Rees (WAL)
55y269d 32:02 Martin Rees (WAL)
59y194d 33:12 Martin Rees (WAL)
60y192d 32:48 Martin Rees (WAL)
Orville,
You asked what else, rhetorically I guess. The answer is a little luck.
That is a combination of staying away from colds and flus that interrupt consistent training, avoiding the random muscle pull that is unexpected and just sticking to a routine of healthy diet and adequate hydration. Luck can also be having continued motivation to be the very best.
Amazing these guys run so fast. I'm approaching 48 in a few days and such times are more impressive than I thought when I was 40.
Hi Greg; Hi Ed
Now that I no longer can do more than walk, I am enjoying watching you lead the way, Ed. I have learned a lot from your results and successes. As stated by Roger Robinson in the July/August 2013 edition of "Marathon and Beyond" you "are important for transforming attitudes about the human aging process and the knowledge of what is possible at the end of life". As happened with Roger Bannister and the mile, others will follow and we will all learn more and maybe more of us will be able to continue longer. No matter, it is great to see. It is the older of us who really understand what is happening here and how hard it is to do what you have done. Maybe, as Greg mentions, there is a little luck involved too.
I'm glad I sent my old mate a good 10K training plan. If anybody else wants it, let me know by responding on this thread.
No, he isn´t. Jerrry is perfectly right.
Martin started to run late, his training is hard, but with proper recovery, no excessive mileage. The secret is: consistency over the years.
I know a guy who also started running late at age 39, unfit and quite fat. 6 years later: 10k in 31,42.
It was only a matter of time before the idiots started with the drug suspicions.
Congratulations Martin.
Martin started to run late, his training is hard, but with proper recovery, no excessive mileage. The secret is: consistency over the years.
Wrong. The secret appears to be genetics. Hundreds if not thousands of talented, former fast runners become masters runners, do everything right and still don't even get close to Martins times.
To me its amazing that he got to 37 before starting running. Assuming he was way sub-30 10k potential in a country where XC and track are pretty hi profile, and he obviously likes running and has the work ethic. What's the deal?
Can some local person give more detail on Martins history? Just 'hard work and 'consistency' mean nothing. We all do that.
It could be that age group records are generally soft. Historically there are very few people who train at the level of professional athletes once they're no longer able to compete with people in their prime. As more people train properly as they age we might expect to see a lot of strong performances.
Aging isn't well-understood and certainly not everyone's body changes in the same way over time - some people just don't suffer the same adverse physiological effects as most, or at least - not to the same degree as most. So there are going to be some people who are going to be very strong later on even if they were not when younger.
Apart from anything else as long as he keeps training reasonably hard we can expect to see all kinds of age group records fall to Haile. He's now officially over 40 (and quite possibly actually a bit older). His first 10k road race after he turned 40 resulted in almost a minute off the previous mark. Tomorrow there's a good chance that he'll take a chunk out of the HM 40+ record (1:02:48) if conditions are good.
Hazycosmicjive wrote:
Wrong. The secret appears to be genetics. Hundreds if not thousands of talented, former fast runners become masters runners, do everything right and still don't even get close to Martins times. (...)
Just 'hard work and 'consistency' mean nothing. We all do that.
Thousands of talented, former fast runners become masters and...
- are wiped out or
- don´t push it like in former times or
- get injured easily or
- train quite hard but the killer instict is gone.
Not to forget genetic factors.
I'll take a copy of your 10k plan if you're posting it.
pr100 wrote:
It could be that age group records are generally soft. Historically there are very few people who train at the level of professional athletes once they're no longer able to compete with people in their prime. As more people train properly as they age we might expect to see a lot of strong performances.
Aging isn't well-understood and certainly not everyone's body changes in the same way over time - some people just don't suffer the same adverse physiological effects as most, or at least - not to the same degree as most. So there are going to be some people who are going to be very strong later on even if they were not when younger.
Apart from anything else as long as he keeps training reasonably hard we can expect to see all kinds of age group records fall to Haile. He's now officially over 40 (and quite possibly actually a bit older). His first 10k road race after he turned 40 resulted in almost a minute off the previous mark. Tomorrow there's a good chance that he'll take a chunk out of the HM 40+ record (1:02:48) if conditions are good.
Well put. I am still pretty amazed by 32:48 for 10k at age 60. The NYRR results archive goes back to 1987, and I've only found a handful of people who've broken 40 for 10k at age 60 and none who've broken 39.
I think even Haile G if he stays healthy and motivated will find 32:48 at 60 a real challenge - hope we'll get a chance to find out when he reaches that age.
Hazycosmicjive wrote:
Martin started to run late, his training is hard, but with proper recovery, no excessive mileage. The secret is: consistency over the years.
Wrong. The secret appears to be genetics. Hundreds if not thousands of talented, former fast runners become masters runners, do everything right and still don't even get close to Martins times.
To me its amazing that he got to 37 before starting running. Assuming he was way sub-30 10k potential in a country where XC and track are pretty hi profile, and he obviously likes running and has the work ethic. What's the deal?
Can some local person give more detail on Martins history? Just 'hard work and 'consistency' mean nothing. We all do that.
Genetics and starting late. I ran 29,10 for the 10000 in my mid-20s. Now I´m 44 and there is no way I can run 32. I´ve been training seriously all the time but nowadays I have these small aches and pains all the time that prevents me from training really hard. I guess you only have a limited number of years at the very best of your ability.
What's with the idiot posting bold print.