Why don't more top runners train like Lagat?

Why don't more top runners dope like Lagat?

They tried to train like him, but found that they needed more mileage.

realistic... wrote:

They tried to train like him, but found that they needed more mileage.

Why?

not everybody has the natural abilities of lagat. very few athletes can train like him

There is a reason Lagat trains in Germany/Tuebingen most of the time. Faaaaaaaar away from USADA.

The other guy! wrote:

There is a reason Lagat trains in Germany/Tuebingen most of the time. Faaaaaaaar away from USADA.

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Are you really confident that Lagat use PEDs?

The other guy! wrote:

There is a reason Lagat trains in Germany/Tuebingen most of the time. Faaaaaaaar away from USADA.

Do you really think that escaping out of competition tests is as easy as not being in the US or in your home country? You know there are other organizations like UKAD in the ULK and NADA in Germany to conduct testing? And if you're in a country without an independent anti-doping agency, testers will be flown in for you (assuming you're in the pool).

Mara Yamauchi lived and trained in Japan, faaaaaaar away from UKAD. What does that tell you? She has a Japanese husband and given her mastery of Japanese (near native fluency) she's popular on their racing scene.

realistic... wrote:

They tried to train like him, but found that they needed more mileage.

This.

HRE wrote:

realistic... wrote:

They tried to train like him, but found that they needed more mileage.

This.

Who is they?

Almost anyone who got any good, whatever that may mean for their own abilities. In he old days, most of us started off training along the lines of what Lagat supposedly does and found that we did a lot better by running a lot more than he supposedly does.

Are you sure they don't?

In order to avoid the common trap of training misconceptions, is there anything solid that says exactly how Lagat trains?

Jeff Wigand wrote:

Do you really think that escaping out of competition tests is as easy as not being in the US or in your home country? You know there are other organizations like UKAD in the ULK and NADA in Germany to conduct testing? And if you're in a country without an independent anti-doping agency, testers will be flown in for you (assuming you're in the pool).

Mara Yamauchi lived and trained in Japan, faaaaaaar away from UKAD. What does that tell you? She has a Japanese husband and given her mastery of Japanese (near native fluency) she's popular on their racing scene.

Jeff, my friend

What took you so long?

I am sorry to say but

EPO hero berny lagat

IS A FRAUD

Now please, post your usual drivel about mishandled tests

hahahahahahahaha

BLAST FROM THE PAST wrote:]

Jeff, my friend

What took you so long?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/3078642.stm

I am sorry to say but

EPO hero berny lagat

IS A FRAUD

Now please, post your usual drivel about mishandled tests

hahahahahahahaha

Oh no. I'm so upset. How will I ever move beyond this. et cetera.

HRE wrote:

Almost anyone who got any good, whatever that may mean for their own abilities. In he old days, most of us started off training along the lines of what Lagat supposedly does and found that we did a lot better by running a lot more than he supposedly does.

So when did you run your 3:26s?

coach d wrote:

HRE wrote:

Almost anyone who got any good, whatever that may mean for their own abilities. In he old days, most of us started off training along the lines of what Lagat supposedly does and found that we did a lot better by running a lot more than he supposedly does.

So when did you run your 3:26s?

When I was training more like Lagat, based on what I've read here about what he does, than in later, much faster years.

Not sure if HRE actually "gets" that 3:26 thing, but I am always amused when he uses himself as an example to illustrate what the world best should or should not do.

HRE wrote:

coach d wrote:

So when did you run your 3:26s?

When I was training more like Lagat, based on what I've read here about what he does, than in later, much faster years.

the key word here is "supposedly"

A better question is why Lagat doesn't train like Lasse Viren or Kenenisa Bekele or Mo Farah, people who have actually won gold medals at the Olympics.

Answer: Because he and his coach concluded early in his career that he can't handle that kind of volume without breaking down. They compromised.

Whether you can run a great 1,500 isn't the only measure of one's talent. The ability to hand the training volume necessary to win the biggest ones is probably a more important one.