R.I.P. Mizuno Musha

Hi Seth,

The Elixir has also been my go to training shoe for a few years. I recently tried on the Sayonara and was very pleased. I have also been considering getting the Musha. How do these compare to the Elixir or Sayonara in terms of mid-sole width? I have very flat feet and narrower mid-soles are often a problem for me.

How will the replacement to the Musha compare?

Thanks

why is there no replacement racer with support?

the sayonara is for neutral runners

sethh wrote:

Seth

I love the Elixir and do all my training in it. Nothing crazy only about 40 or 50mi/wk.

You say the Sayonara is an option for Kinvara users. Along with my Elixirs I use the Saucony Mirage. I found the Kinvara was just not supportive enough.

If I am using Elixirs and the Mirage do you think the Saynora would work as an every day trainer? I can see the Saynora taking the place of my Musha's to race half marathons, but what do I go with as a daily trainer.[/quote]

Hey qrkid,

Thanks for the note.

I'm with you on the Elixir being that go-to trainer. Has been mine for years and I was surprised when the product guys told me it was going away at the end of 2013, but when I got the Sayonara sample... I was set at ease.

I'd put Sayonara right next to the Mirage, Elixir, Kinvara on a shoe wall in run specialty. Although it's deemed a neutral shoe, Sayonara actually has tested to be 1%-2% more stable than the Elixir. Basically due to being closer to the ground, a different midfoot platform, and the addition of u4ic midsole compound.

So, in short... Yea, Sayonara would be your daily trainer coming from the Elixir, coming in January the Wave Hitogami will hit streets... will be a solid half marathon racer.

Thanks again for the question![/quote]

sethh wrote:

Seth

I love the Elixir and do all my training in it. Nothing crazy only about 40 or 50mi/wk.

You say the Sayonara is an option for Kinvara users. Along with my Elixirs I use the Saucony Mirage. I found the Kinvara was just not supportive enough.

If I am using Elixirs and the Mirage do you think the Saynora would work as an every day trainer? I can see the Saynora taking the place of my Musha's to race half marathons, but what do I go with as a daily trainer.[/quote]

Hey qrkid,

Thanks for the note.

I'm with you on the Elixir being that go-to trainer. Has been mine for years and I was surprised when the product guys told me it was going away at the end of 2013, but when I got the Sayonara sample... I was set at ease.

I'd put Sayonara right next to the Mirage, Elixir, Kinvara on a shoe wall in run specialty. Although it's deemed a neutral shoe, Sayonara actually has tested to be 1%-2% more stable than the Elixir. Basically due to being closer to the ground, a different midfoot platform, and the addition of u4ic midsole compound.

So, in short... Yea, Sayonara would be your daily trainer coming from the Elixir, coming in January the Wave Hitogami will hit streets... will be a solid half marathon racer.

Thanks again for the question![/quote]

Pete Sanukis wrote:

I work at a technical running shop. Our Mizuno rep came in yesterday and informed me that after 5 iterations the Musha is getting canceled early next year. Stock up and bid farewell...

The shoe is getting replaced by the Wave Hitogami- decent replacement but not the Musha.

I finally ran out . Had 4 pair purchased in 2014. Bring back this shoe Mizuno.

What size are you? I have a pair of the Musha 3's, 10 or 10.5 (?), in the red/green colorway that have no more than 10 miles on them.

Anyone still sitting on some fresh pairs of Mushas? I was die hard Mizuno until this shoe was discontinued and it was a fast exit for me. I’ve still got 5-6 pairs untouched.

Pulled my last pair into rotation last year, though they're hardly seeing much use. It's probably due to what originally turned me off of Mizuno after the Elixir and Musha: that rock collector under the rearfoot. I'll only pick it for running on paved or turf surfaces.

sethh wrote:

Hey guys, I'm Seth with Mizuno Running..

Yea, the Musha will not be carried and updated in Jan. like usual as we are streamlining our entire line up.

Similair to the way Sayonara took the best of the Elixir/Precision into one shoe, Wave Hitogami looks to do this with Ronin/Musha.

Totally get that we will have some backlash on this, but no reason for shoes that were so very similar to fight each other for wall space.

Also, I totally agree that the Sayonara is a solid opion for Kinvara runners, basically the exact same weight, if "drop" matters to anyone... it's 10 v. 4, and despite that fact... Sayonara actually puts your foot closer to the ground, for sure more responsive than the Kinvara.

Hit me up with any questions..

Why did Mizuno drop the popular MX Forge Golf clubs ?