Piers Morgan gets DESTROYED

No, by huge difference I mean exactly what I said. The fact that hundreds of blacks commit murders and the fact that one white vigilante committed a murder is a huge difference in kind, which is exactly what I'm talking about. Are you saying that because hundreds of people die, that one death doesn't matter? You listen to way too many right wing demagogues, it shows in your bullying style of argument. If you were half as smart as you think you are you'd be ten times smarter than you are.

No one said that you don't wonder about a young black man walking through a white neighborhood. Of course you might wonder. So you observe. Did Zimmerman observe Martin do anything? No, he did not. The authorities told Zimmerman to back off, and he did not. In the end, based on nothing but the color of Martin's skin, Zimmerman confronted him while armed with a weapon. And Martin ended up dead. At the very least, this was negligent homicide.

starmiler wrote:

No one said that you don't wonder about a young black man walking through a white neighborhood. Of course you might wonder. So you observe. Did Zimmerman observe Martin do anything? No, he did not. The authorities told Zimmerman to back off, and he did not. In the end, based on nothing but the color of Martin's skin, Zimmerman confronted him while armed with a weapon. And Martin ended up dead. At the very least, this was negligent homicide.

it is perfectly legal to walk up to anybody you want and ask, "what are you doing here", while carrying a gun. that is not illegal anywhere in the US for civilians anywhere in the US except maybe airports etc.

Martin is dead because, while assaulting a person carrying a gun, he tried to take the gun.

Marta Lualdi wrote:

real al lity wrote:

Elder is a libertarian, you ignorant cretin.

lol American "libertarians" are as neo-fascist as they come.

name calling

touché Sir

starmiler wrote:

The authorities told Zimmerman to back off, and he did not.

Incorrect.

Zimmerman was out of his car looking for an address when the dispatcher said, "we don't need you to do that". It was then that he headed back to his car.

This is on the tapes. He obeyed instructions.

Weary wrote:

The fact that Piers Morgan is undeserving of a talk show (and honestly, how did he get this one) is a given. But Larry Elder didn't impress me much. Explosive righteous indignation is old shtick. It would also be nice if he was capable of handling more than one issue at a time, which he clearly is not.

17,251 Brits work in American television; TWO Americans work in British television....how is that fair trade thing working out for you?

starmiler wrote:

No, by huge difference I mean exactly what I said. The fact that hundreds of blacks commit murders and the fact that one white vigilante committed a murder is a huge difference in kind, which is exactly what I'm talking about. Are you saying that because hundreds of people die, that one death doesn't matter? You listen to way too many right wing demagogues, it shows in your bullying style of argument. If you were half as smart as you think you are you'd be ten times smarter than you are.

Are you honestly trying to argue that white vigilanteism is an issue in this country? Seriously?

And yes, one death of a punk kid doesn't matter when hundreds of those same types of punks are killed every single month. The only reason this one matters to you, liberal, is because a "white-Hispanic" pulled the trigger.

BFTs wrote:

Piers has been excellent at bringing the right wing nut jobs on to his show to showcase them to the world. I for one love watching his show.

Rolls eyes. Piers looked like the guy who's trying to please the liberal media...in other words, the "poor me victim" journalist in this case. Btw, I've only read this page.

Facts:Black males (14-29) are 1.6% of US population; 30% of murder offenders;12.8% of total black population; 55% of black murder offenders. White males(14-29) are 8.6% of US population; 21% of murder offenders; 11% of total white population; 47% of white murder offenders. Of known murders 83% are white on white; 14% black on white. If you're white in the USA a young white male is just as likely to murder you as a young black man.

observerered wrote:

starmiler wrote:

No one said that you don't wonder about a young black man walking through a white neighborhood. Of course you might wonder. So you observe. Did Zimmerman observe Martin do anything? No, he did not. The authorities told Zimmerman to back off, and he did not. In the end, based on nothing but the color of Martin's skin, Zimmerman confronted him while armed with a weapon. And Martin ended up dead. At the very least, this was negligent homicide.

it is perfectly legal to walk up to anybody you want and ask, "what are you doing here", while carrying a gun. that is not illegal anywhere in the US for civilians anywhere in the US except maybe airports etc.

Martin is dead because, while assaulting a person carrying a gun, he tried to take the gun.

Facts not in evidence. We do not know what happened after Zimm stalked and approached TM other than that Zimm shot TM to death

You can keep on believing in the "liberal media" all you want. More and more americans arent buying in to the fox news propaganda so maybe you should find somewhere else to live that has a more conservative view of the world.

Or maybe you can just live vicariously through letsrun. This website does an excellent job of leaving the extremely conservative rants up while deleting most of the sound arguments. TBH I'm surprised that this thread is still going with all of the comments supporting Piers Morgan.

Krackerman wrote:

Facts not in evidence. We do not know what happened after Zimm stalked and approached TM other than that Zimm shot TM to death

We know that Martin was on top of Zimmerman pounding his head into the ground. 1 eye witness confirmed that fact.

la gente está muy loca. wrote:

Facts:Black males (14-29) are 1.6% of US population; 30% of murder offenders;12.8% of total black population; 55% of black murder offenders. White males(14-29) are 8.6% of US population; 21% of murder offenders; 11% of total white population; 47% of white murder offenders. Of known murders 83% are white on white; 14% black on white. If you're white in the USA a young white male is just as likely to murder you as a young black man.

??? DoJ statistics have >50% of all murders in the US committed by black men. Where are you getting your #s?

Regardless the RATE of murder among black males is 10x that of white males.

Most murder is intra-racial. Most murders are between people who know each other.

A young black man has a much greater chance of being murdered at least 10x if not 20. That is a tragedy. And nothing is being done about it. Candlelight vigils protesting racism will not prevent this.

BTW what is the white on black murder rate? 1%? Maybe less? Blacks therefore are 14x more likely to murder a white person than a white person killing a black person? I don't like those odds.

All true except in MD-PhD programs your tuition and stipend are paid by the insitution and the NIH. (I graduated without debt and had purchased a home with my own savings.) Regardless, I cringe every time I read about Ben Carson making his foray into politics.

Starmiler, let me break down you post as you make a lot of different points all in on paragraph. I've separated it point by point.

People keep getting this wrong. They said, "Are you following him? We don't need you to do that."

They used the word need. One could easily think they were saying that to protect themsleves from liability. I'll agree it's not safef or the non-police to follow people. They might fear he'd sue the city.

Not true at all. There were a number of things besides skin color. Remember when he was asked about skin color, he said, "I think he's black." He wasn't even sure.

1) It was raining and at night and a guy is walking aimlessly about looking all around - looking like he was on drugs.

Remember, the kid had just taken 45 minutes to come back from the store as he smoked a blunt. Have you ever smoked pot? All of the colors and sensations and what not. He's enjoying that walking around like a druggie.

Was he staring around looking all around becuase of the drugs or because he was scoping out possible burglarly sites (remember this is a guy found with stolen jewelry and burglary tools in his backpack at school)? It doesn't matter if he was just high or looking for his next victim. It's suspicious.

Yes, he's dead and yes it's a tragedy. I don't know what 'negligent homicide'.

I'm not some pro-gun wacko who believes in rights, rights, rights. I think people should be allowed to have guns - at home - not carry them around. Should you be allowed to start something and shoot someone? No we should not so perhaps the law could be changed.

But we don't know what happened do we? No we do not. For all we know, Zimmerman confronted the thief (sorry to say it but that's what he was), didn't flash the gun but was attacked.

I wanted to make another point separately.

For all of you libs so upset that Zimmerman profiled Martin. Here's a question for you.

Where's the outrage about the fact that Martin via Jenteel profiled zimmerman as being gay - who else follows teens around at night (remember this is when sandusky stuff was big)? Not only did Jenteel assume he was gay he also assumed he was going to possibly be raped?"

You can't get any more stereotypical than that. A black man profiles another guy as being a gay rapist based on zero evidence. But this doesn't bother liberals as it doesn't fit their story line.

I think Zimmerman was beaten up as the result of a hate crime and Jenteel has basically admitted it on CNN. I hope the Justice Department files those charges.

BFTs wrote:

You can keep on believing in the "liberal media" all you want. More and more americans arent buying in to the fox news propaganda so maybe you should find somewhere else to live that has a more conservative view of the world.

Or maybe you can just live vicariously through letsrun. This website does an excellent job of leaving the extremely conservative rants up while deleting most of the sound arguments. TBH I'm surprised that this thread is still going with all of the comments supporting Piers Morgan.

Yeah, that's why FOX News ratings are higher than the two liberal networks combined.

Why are you so worried about getting murdered by a black male? You need to fear cheese burgers french fries, alcohol, cars etc...heart disease kills a lot more people than murder