Ben True WOW - 6x1m averaging 4:23

TrackCoach wrote:

Whenever elite athletes post workouts, they always seem incredible, but it you want to run 13 minutes in the 5K, you have to train like it. True's workout is actually not that impressive for someone looking to run 13 minutes in a 5K, it's slightly better than what you would expect from an NCAA all-American. With that said, it is better to be 5% undertrained, than 1% overtrained.

In an interview where he talked about how he was training differently with Mark Coogan, Ben True said Coogan would purposely keep him from maxing out his work-outs like he used to do...it seems to be working for him.

stick with eharmony wrote:

BOOM!

http://duathlon.com/articles/215/

Different (equally insane) session, my man. From the interview:

"Last year we did a session and it was 1600, 1200, 800, and 400, with 3 minutes between each interval, and it was myself, Daniel Komen, and Paul Koech, and the other top guys. And these are my times: I ran 3:57, 2:56, 1:55, and 55. And I was kind of in the middle of the pack. Komen ran about 3:54, 2:53, 1:54, and 55. Not many people would ever conceive of training at that speed."

I don't remember where the 4x1600m session was, but it was from a similar period in his training.

I can recall reading a session he did of 1600s - maybe 4 or 5 and done in, if I recall correctly, 4:06 to 4:10. 4 x 1600 in 3:59 is a workout a 12:39 guy might do.

J.R. wrote:

Razor Black wrote:

Have I missed something, I have never heard this before. Only that his easy days are 5:40 pace, other than that his actual workout reps I've heard are reasonable. Not like a Bob Kennedy who would run 4x16000 in 3:59.

I didn't hear of him running even 1/10th of the distance at that speed.

My feeling is that True is within 10 to 20s of Rupp at the 10k, and could beat him on a good day, especially with the pace being fast enough.[/quote]

26:48. No one in the US is "within 10 to 20s of Rupp" and True definitely cannot beat Rupp. If the pace is fast enough Rupp would just drop everyone.

jeezy wrote:

Interesting that he has talked about never wanting to go to the well during a workout. He is definitely more of a racer, because this workout seems like he would be very much in control. Contradictory to the workouts Rupp has reported where he is absolutely ripping hard sessions.

You must not understand how training works.

This was a 10k pace workout. 4:23 = 27:15 (with is right in line w/ 13:07, so sounds perfect for True). 6xmile @ 10k pace is not easy at all. Rupp also does 10k pace workouts...the fact that he closes out workouts w/ a 3:59 or a :52 or does some impressive speedwork doesn't mean True is working out "easier." This just happens to have been a workout at 10k pace, probably on about 2:00 rest between each mile.

How does this tell you ANYTHING about how Rupp's and True's training compares?

(Answer: it really doesn't.)

I was talking about the 10k. Lagat and Lomong aren't running the 10k. Ritz, Derrick, True, and Rupp have all confirmed they're running the 10k first. I thought that was obvious...

Cold Dead Hand wrote:

I believe the man you're responding to was talking about the 1k at trials.[quote]MS Paint wrote:

[quote]asdfasdf wrote:

Speedwise, Rupp can obviously close the fastest. After that it's probably True, Derrick, Ritz in that order.

If True can stay in contention until the bell, he has a great shot to kick to make the team. Ritz will do everything he can to drop him before that though. Should be very interesting.

sounds like a good X-C season workout for a top collegian, that's about it.

J.R. wrote:

My feeling is that True is within 10 to 20s of Rupp at the 10k, and could beat him on a good day, especially with the pace being fast enough.

RuppNation wrote:

26:48. No one in the US is "within 10 to 20s of Rupp" and True definitely cannot beat Rupp. If the pace is fast enough Rupp would just drop everyone.

We shall see in 8 days.

The pace wasn't crazy, but he was in control. Every workout shouldn't be a world beater. Practicing staying relaxed and in control can be more beneficial sometimes. Bekele at Pre didn't run very crazy fast, but if you don't think he is ready to compete with anyone you didn't watch that race.

This is a good workout for True but shouldn't be too surprising. It a typical workout for a 13:08 5k and 27:20 10k runner.

Emil C wrote:

Time to get off True's nuts. Dude has zero chance to make it to Worlds.

Bumped for TRUTH.

If Hill doesn't go sub-13:20, True has 100% chance of going to World's. That is a nonzero probability.

Emil C wrote:

Emil C wrote:

Time to get off True's nuts. Dude has zero chance to make it to Worlds.

Bumped for TRUTH.