MY NCAA HEAD COACH RANKINGS

Damon Martin (Adams State) and Jen Michel (Western State) continue to develop athletes and get it done year after year.

coolyourjets wrote:

This is my list of top ten NCAA distant coaches, in no particular order, based on my experiences, observations, and research. I tried making this list solely on coaching success/ development of talent, not recruiting ability. Feel free to make your own top ten list,I am interested in seeing who everyone thinks is the best.

Mark Wetmore, Mick Bryne, Bob Braman Eric Heins, Robert Gary, Joe Franklin, Alex Gibby, Martin Smith, Ed Eyestone, and Ron Helmer

No Dave Smith or Andy Powell?

Say what you want about Smith but Mecheso has run sub 28, he got Farrell to a 13:15, and Colby Lowe was a consistent 10th-15th at xc nationals since his sophomore year.

You can see with Schumacher now that Fernandez is just an injury machine and it wasn't Smith's doing.

Also Powell at Oregon always has guys who weren't superstars in high school but come out and run sub 4.

Title of the thread is misleading. It should say distance coach rankings. Mick Byrne and Alex Gibby aren't head coaches. Outside of Bob Braman (and maybe Helmer) none of these teams will do anything at the NCAA meet next week.

For head coaches, how about Pat Henry, Chris Bucknam, Robert Johnson, Mike Holloway, Bob Braman, Ed Nuttycombe, Tonja Buford-Bailey, Fred Harvey, Greg Kraft, Ron Helmer... These are the coaches who consistently have teams doing something in their conference meets and national meets in track.

Jerry Baltes of Grand Valley State. Big D2 School. Takes very average guys with few scholarships and develops them into very solid runners. It helps they have better facilities than most d1 schools.

rmac alum wrote:

Damon Martin (Adams State) and Jen Michel (Western State) continue to develop athletes and get it done year after year.

Yeah because they can dope in D2.

Andy Powell is incredibly underrated and very well liked by his athletes. He's not a guy who seeks the limelight, he's just a guy who gets the job done.

A big LOL at your suggestion that Joe Franklin coaches his guys and doesn't buy them. Oh, and Mick Byrne too.

Also Powell at Oregon always has guys who weren't superstars in high school but come out and run sub 4.

Not sure I agree with your statement of how Powell gets gusy who were not superstars in HS. Seems UofO gets more FL Finalist/NXN top finishers and lots of guys who are among the best in HS yet do almost nothing while at UofO

Chris Fox?

Beth Alford Sullivan?

what a mess wrote:

Also Powell at Oregon always has guys who weren't superstars in high school but come out and run sub 4.

Not sure I agree with your statement of how Powell gets gusy who were not superstars in HS. Seems UofO gets more FL Finalist/NXN top finishers and lots of guys who are among the best in HS yet do almost nothing while at UofO

I wouldn't rush to judgement. Still a lot of eligibility left with the current crop.

But I guess you're right Andrew Wheating did sht. Centrowitz was crap. Elijah Wood has only has one title.

Sweeping the NCAA 1500 wasn't much of an achievement.

Having a guy win the 800/1500 double at NCAA for the first time in about 30 years, nothing remarkable.

Powell really screwed up Ashton Eaton's 1500 training, too, Harry was pissed last year.

This year, 5 guys, nearly 6, under 4 minutes in the mile this year. Sucks.

Everyone else has improved. Sucks.

hehehehe wrote:

A big LOL at your suggestion that Joe Franklin coaches his guys and doesn't buy them. Oh, and Mick Byrne too.

Since Mick Byrne went to Wisconsin 5 years ago, he has had 1 non America on the team, a Canadien. He repeatedly said while at Iona he recruited American high schoolers, but they didn't want to go to Iona so he got runners from elsewhere.

The last 5 years at XC NCAAs Wisconsin was 4th, 7th, 3rd, 1st, 2nd. Oklahoma St is the only team that has a better record, but with many "bought" runners.

Mike McGuire at Michigan. Amazing mid-distance program, with the exception of 3-4 years, his girls have been some of the best mid-d runners since mid 90s.

A Duck wrote:

Elijah Wood has only has one title.

Actually Elijah Wood has no titles.

I think he does have a ring though.

Have you forgotten that Vinny Lananna was coaching there also, Powell did not do those things all on his own.

dweebles wrote:

A Duck wrote:

Elijah Wood has only has one title.

Actually Elijah Wood has no titles.

I think he does have a ring though.

That was genius, well done.

Thundercats_GO wrote:

dweebles wrote:

Actually Elijah Wood has no titles.

I think he does have a ring though.

That was genius, well done.

Explain?

[/quote]Actually Elijah Wood has no titles.

I think he does have a ring though.[/quote]

hahahhahahhaahahahahhahahahahahahaha

I second that Damon Martin suggestion. I've observed some crazy improvement in his guys.

The suggestion of him being on the list. Not that his guys dope. That's absurd.