East Africa?? He's from Sudan, not Ethiopia.[/quote][/quote]
Sudan? Is that a suburb of Ohio? I have no problem with a guy of Mexican descent coming out of Sudan Ohio and getting the AR. Viva la heartland!
East Africa?? He's from Sudan, not Ethiopia.[/quote][/quote]
Sudan? Is that a suburb of Ohio? I have no problem with a guy of Mexican descent coming out of Sudan Ohio and getting the AR. Viva la heartland!
really?????? wrote:
Good for him. I have no problems at all with east africans winning races but to be fair, if it is an AR, it needs an *.
Unless the foreign born runner is white then it needs no *.
Of course, we cannot test this theory cause there no white runners other than Galen Rupp capable of setting American distance records -- foreign born or not.
Poor, poor, white racists
It was a fun race to watch. Sadly, only about 200 people were there.
I agree with Pewow, well said. Lopez is an Ameridan.
If you are white, your family are immigrants. Like many Americans, I'm a northern European mutt, immigrants all.
Congrats Lopez!
No love for los negros wrote:
Haters gonna hate.
If Rupp ran this, this thread would be 9 pages long.
As impressive as Rupp has been, it's still hard to root for him and his pollen mask. Lomong just seems like a class act with a great story. Well done Lopez.
really?????? wrote: Good for him. I have no problems at all with east africans winning races but to be fair, if it is an AR, it needs an *.
Yes, Ameri-can'ts need a special olympics style *. They have to be able a claim a record some special way.
In general, I think that most LRC's expect sub 13:10 and 3:50 indoor performances from Alan Webb. Its great that Lopez is showing such great range.
Lots of people think that, Salazar's effort to reduce Webb's upper body mass was a good idea. However, I think Lopez is showing that you can still run fast over a wide range of distances with above average muscle mass for a distance runner.
Lopez Lomong 180cm/69kg
Alan Webb 175cm/66kg (was probably heavier running at Michigan)
Taoufik Makhloufi 176cm/70kg
Chris Solinsky 185cm/73kg
John Walker 183cm/74kg
Mr. Cleary wrote:
Of course, we cannot test this theory cause there no white runners other than Galen Rupp capable of setting American distance records
Cough (Ryan Hall) Cough
He is an American! Just like Obama!
Trolly Trollie wrote:
He is an American! Just like Obama!
What? I didn't know he was an american, news to me.
If German was healthy and in the race he would have run 13:04. German Baby WOOO
Men's 5000m run
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Name Year School Seed Finals
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1 Lomong, Lopez Nike 13:07.00
2 Derrick, Chris Nike 13:12.00
3 Bumbalough, Andrew Nike 13:23.68
4 Heath, Elliott Nike 13:33.22
5 Jager, Evan Nike 13:33.37
6 Tegenkamp, Matt Nike 13:35.46
7 Mecheso, Girma Oklahoma Sta 13:57.06 13:45.61
-- Huling, Dan Nike DNF
-- Mahoney, Travis New Jersey-N DNF
Nice to see Bumbi get humbled once again. Derrick was too far away for Bumbi to use his legendary lean-at-the-finish skills, but I didn't see the full race. Did Bumbi also try shoving Derrick in the back to intimidate him?
Lomong is doing some great things... seems likely that we're going to see another American under 13 this year. 10 years ago, who would've guessed that we'd have 6 active US runners with PRs under 13? Jager's steeple time suggests that he might be there some time too.
Anyway, congrats to Lopez and all of Schumaker' group... impressive stuff.
Yogibear wrote:
Mr. Cleary wrote:Of course, we cannot test this theory cause there no white runners other than Galen Rupp capable of setting American distance records
Cough (Ryan Hall) Cough
Which American record is Mr. Hall capable of bettering?
I agree with you Lomong is causing lots of ripples in American distance running. To put it into perspective, this was Lomong's first 5k indoor ever. And he gets the American Record! The question in the minds of many is, "how fast can this guy run once he has the same experience Rupp and Lagat have in the 5k?" Last year in his first ever(serious) 5k outdoors, he runs an unbelievable time of 13:11. And that was after stopping with one lap to go before proceeding to finish the race! Seems to me like he could have ran 13:05 that day. On the American Record, I think it was and is still a soft one. Remember steeple chaser Paul Kipsiele Koech has run 13:02 and Daniel Kipchirchir Komen has run 13:06. And these guys are not specialists in the distance. With many indoor tracks and indoor races in the US, the American Record should at least be around 12:59.
sc42 wrote:
Lomong is doing some great things... seems likely that we're going to see another American under 13 this year. 10 years ago, who would've guessed that we'd have 6 active US runners with PRs under 13? Jager's steeple time suggests that he might be there some time too.
Anyway, congrats to Lopez and all of Schumaker' group... impressive stuff.
So that's 3 different men getting the indoor 5000 AR in the last year, right?
toro wrote:
So that's 3 different men getting the indoor 5000 AR in the last year, right?
Wrong
No, a white foreign born should get an * too. It just isn't as easy to tell by looking at them.
Mr. Cleary wrote:
really?????? wrote:Good for him. I have no problems at all with east africans winning races but to be fair, if it is an AR, it needs an *.
Unless the foreign born runner is white then it needs no *.
Of course, we cannot test this theory cause there no white runners other than Galen Rupp capable of setting American distance records -- foreign born or not.
Poor, poor, white racists
It seems that folks memories are way too short. Lomong was a cross country boss at NAU and dominant 3k runner indoors. I would have loved to see Chelanga, Lomong, and Lalang in college at the same time in a high-quality cross race. His running the 800/mile the last few years seemed to be only preparation for his real, natural event--5,000 meters. Please, don't be surprised if Lomong set some nasty records outdoors this AND next year. Expect it!
[quote]really?????? wrote:
No, a white foreign born should get an * too. It just isn't as easy to tell by looking at them.
Why is that? "Real" Americans are white?
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