Think you're a big shot with your engineering degree? Look at this Chipolte worker!

For every engineer that makes $300,000-there are a thousand who make $80,000.

$99k aint nothing round here wrote:

bfd. the small company i'm at has 3 physicists, 4 chme's and 2 sw-only engrs and our avg take is $300,000 per year plus founders stock. of course most of us hit it big in past startups. we work in mil spec so we are all u.s. citizens, 2/3ds foreign born.

Castillo also said she didn’t need a college education for her job because she has 13 qualities Chipotle values in an employee.

“Conscientious, respectful, hospitable, high energy, infectiously enthusiastic, happy, presentable, smart, polite, motivated, ambitious, curious, and honest. As long as you have the 13 characteristics, you’ll thrive,” she said.

What is this about?!? Seriously, a Chipotle thread.

Look, you are not my husband. You are not my boyfriend. You are not my best friend. You are not even my friend.

You know why?

Because you tell me that you want to kill me. You write mean things about me and tell lies. And you don't act like even a friend - a friend would be here for me, actually physically here. I don't want an image of flowers. I don't want a typed declaration of love. I don't want an online relationship or friendship. I want a real one. Because you haven't done anything, I can conclude you want to continue living in online land. I've told you this many, many times. We obviously want different things.

MunchMunchMunch wrote:

I wonder how many "Burrito"s she ate to get to where she is

Haha I see what you did there.

[quote]EngineerHere wrote:

For every engineer that makes $300,000-there are a thousand who make $80,000.

This is correct. It's probably even more than a thousand.

EngineerHere wrote:

For every engineer that makes $300,000-there are a thousand who make $80,000.

$99k aint nothing round here wrote:

bfd. the small company i'm at has 3 physicists, 4 chme's and 2 sw-only engrs and our avg take is $300,000 per year plus founders stock. of course most of us hit it big in past startups. we work in mil spec so we are all u.s. citizens, 2/3ds foreign born.

Truth. I know many engineers and very few of them make over 100k.

Since when is 80,000/yr something to be ashamed of or even made as a comparison as somehow being poor?

Haha...what planet do you guys live on? 80K IS FANTASTIC!!

I'm single, with no kids, so that to me is more than enough! If you're single and childless, you can easily get by on 30K/yr after taxes.

I drive a 99 honda accord already paid for and it still runs great. Wasnt mine originally of course.

bguyMilleniumJ_2012 wrote:

I'm single, with no kids, so that to me is more than enough! If you're single and childless, you can easily get by on 30K/yr after taxes.

30k (even after tax) wouldn't even cover my mortgage/HOA/property taxes (and I have a very modest 1 BR). I was paying more than 30k a year in rent for studios/1 BRs before. I love how people think everyone lives in their super low cost of living area.

I certainly made do on well under 30k a year in college and grad school, but after taxes in an expensive area 80k is spreading it pretty thin. And what about retirement/providing for a family?

lpo wrote:

Wow, she's comfortably middle class! What a stunning achievement, working to sell people more burritos. Truly making the world a better place.

what a liberal idiot.

im in Florida/Georgia.

But, a job paying 30K/yr here would or should pay more in a high cost of living area.

Georgia software engineer would probably make 60K, while someone with similar credentials in Silicon Valley would probbaly make 110K to start..Thats a given.

You can actually survive here with less than 30K/yr if you get an apartment and a used car, single, no kids.

Decent 1BR's can range from 600 to 800..

Absolutely right. There's a perception that many people make a lot more than they really do. The truth is, the average American Family lives on less than 50 grand a year.

bguyMilleniumJ_2012 wrote:

Since when is 80,000/yr something to be ashamed of or even made as a comparison as somehow being poor?

Haha...what planet do you guys live on? 80K IS FANTASTIC!!

I'm single, with no kids, so that to me is more than enough! If you're single and childless, you can easily get by on 30K/yr after taxes.

I drive a 99 honda accord already paid for and it still runs great. Wasnt mine originally of course.

> For every engineer that makes $300,000-there are a thousand who make $80,000.

In Phoenix, Salt Lake City maybe.

In Silicon Valley, (SD) Wireless Valley, (LA) South Bay Aerospace, (SF) East Bay Area, Pasadena, Orange County, Ventura County, etc. it's so wealthy and so loaded with the best techincal and creative minds in the world.

*** I should have made this point ***

She is in California, so her state + federal taxes take out a huge chunk.

Her net pay, with taxes factored in is probably closer to 70,000, which is still 5200/month rough.y.

firsties wrote:

I love how people think everyone lives in their super low cost of living area.

Look, anyone can spend more than they have to. There are less-expensive housing choices where you live. You decided not to live there for whatever reason. You too could make it on $30k no matter where you live.

In a big city, a safe apartment would probably cost you at least 1K/month for a 1br. More people to compete with for safer areas, so the price is gonna be high. Some people have no choice unless you're willing to trade your safety for a few hundred off the rent.

sdfsd wrote:

firsties wrote:

I love how people think everyone lives in their super low cost of living area.

Look, anyone can spend more than they have to. There are less-expensive housing choices where you live. You decided not to live there for whatever reason. You too could make it on $30k no matter where you live.

bguyMilleniumJ_2012 wrote:

Since when is 80,000/yr something to be ashamed of or even made as a comparison as somehow being poor?

Haha...what planet do you guys live on? 80K IS FANTASTIC!!

I'm single, with no kids, so that to me is more than enough! If you're single and childless, you can easily get by on 30K/yr after taxes.

I drive a 99 honda accord already paid for and it still runs great. Wasnt mine originally of course.

You're missing the point. Nobody is saying 80,000 is something to be ashamed of. Rather, we're comparing it to the Chipotle worker who makes more than that and doesn't even have an engineering degree (or any degree). You know, the point of this thread.

Hi, I make $1,000,000/year. I have a 150 IQ, a 5000 PR of 13:45, and a very large penis that I put into beautiful women on a regular basis.

Apple Developer wrote:

lpo wrote:

Wow, she's comfortably middle class! What a stunning achievement, working to sell people more burritos. Truly making the world a better place.

what a liberal idiot.

I can't imagine a less interesting or remarkable position than burrito store manager. Sure, good for her and all, but who cares. There are plenty of people who make $100,000 without a college degree. I'm much more interested in the engineer whose labor produces something tangible and unique than in the woman who manages a burrito store, even if he makes less money.

Engineering salaries vary widely with geographic location, engineering field, experience, and combination with other types of compensation.

There are some people in those areas who make what seems like a lot, but what is only reasonable once cost of living is considered.

EE's and software developers do well, but tons of things are offshored now. Engineering salaries are dropping across the board, except for civil (ditch engineers) in the public sector, where wages go nowhere but up.

Engineers who are involved in start-ups are more properly treated as business people than engineers, as their primary concern is business ownership/mgmt, rather than the practice of "engineering".

Like I said, I set stuff like this up--or more properly, tear it down in the USA and rebuild it elsewhere for much cheaper. Boutique stuff still exists in the USA and for sure there is still "engineering" to be had, but a lot has left already--and a lot of the people here now are on visas, and work for much less than you would believe, especially in elec/SW.