What are the chances Baxter and Cain pick Oregon in 2 years

pac12fan wrote:

Wow didn't even realize Colorado had a track team lol

Curious Chris wrote:

You might have noticed the two girls wearing CU uniforms making the Olympic team this past summer...

BOOM ROASTED

She'll pick Oregon....can't beat life-time employment offer.

(Oregon, they don't like me)

You Cain't be serious. If Cain goes to Oregon it will be to Reed College.

Personally, I see Sarah at Oregon or Colorado. It doesn't seem that Roger Evans steers his athletes to any school in particular:

Simi Valley Girls College Choices

2007 - Anna Sperry - BYU (later transferred to ASU)

2010 - Liberty Miller - Washington

2011 - Erika Barr - UC Davis

What are the chances Cain picks Oregon? Zero. No way she would go to an Oregon. Cain is from an Upper Middle Class family, judging from her address / high school. She will want to go to a top academic institution with a top XC / T&F program. That leaves two choices:

1) Princeton - the top ranked academic university in the U.S., including a stronger ranking than Stanford, Princeton is the obvious choice given its academics, top XC / T&F (Princeton is generally the top ivy in both sports, and is competitive at the regional and national level as well). It is also far more convenient for the parents to visit Cain / watch her participate in sports. And they have the most generous, need-based financial aid program going with, importantly, no strings attached to one's athletic particiaption. I other words, once you are in, if you never run another day in your life, you still get the generous aid.

2) Stanford - a top ranked academic institution, too, with a vaunted reputation for scholar athletes. Unlike the ivies, it can give out athletic scholarships, and it is entirely possible, given Cain's athletic caliber, that they may be willing to give her a 100%, four year scholarship. More typical is a 25% 1st year, 50% 2nd year, 75% third year and 100% fourth year scholarship. In either case there is the risk that the scholarship vanishes if the athlete is injured and unable to compete. This is a very real risk, especially for athletes like Cain who have beaten the crap out of their bodies from a very young age. At any point in time, at least 50% of college distance runners are injured. Stanford is obviously just about as far away from Cain's Westchester roots as any location in the country, so it is not the most convenient location.

All in all, considering the most important selection criteria, Cain is going to Princeton, IF SHE CAN GET IN.

If they were smart. They would not run college. It's a major burn out. Their dads should get their check books out and pay for their school and run open.

Get real ivy fan boy.

Cain's parents wouldn't qualify for a dime of financial aid. Lets be honest, her priority is running, not getting a Princeton degree....hence why she is training with Alberto Salazar.

Not saying she will go to Oregon but she sure is hell isn't going to Princeton.

Likelihood:

If Salazar is still in the picture:

50% Oregon

25% Stanford

12.5% Some Ivy

12.5% Diamond League Corrseposndence School

If Salazar is not coaching her:

5% Oregon

40% STanford

55% Some Ivy

Spoke to a science teacher at her high school. Cain could go to MIT.

Jerome Kopf wrote:

Spoke to a science teacher at her high school. Cain could go to MIT.

Not surprising. Her father's a doctor. So, that confirms that she has the smarts, and the grades, and, most importantly, the cultural footing to want the best education possible, i.e., ivy, and, among the ivies, Princeton not only is the natural choice because of its number one ranking in academics, it also offers number one ranking in Ivy Division distance running, as well as offering competitive athletics at the regional and national Div I NCAA level. And, unlike Stanford, whose coaching staff is in turmoil, Princeton's top coach, and top women's distance coach have both been in place for over 20 years. You can't buy that level of talent.

Bottom line, look for Cain to be headed towards Princeton IMHO.

As to the running geeks who urge her to go "pro," let me reiterate that Cain comes from an intelligent family and they therefor have the brains to recognize that a "pro" career in distance running, male or female, has the half life of a butterfly, and not even a smidgin' of glamor compared to just about any other sport. Sad, but true.

Am I wrong?

^^ you are an absolute idiot and have no idea what you're talking about.

The Princeton women didn't even qualify for NCAA are not even the best in the Ivy League.

Stanford finished 3RD at NCAAs and has arguably the best coach in the NCAA

the only problem with that is lack of competition in the Ivies and the lack of athletic scholarhsips. Her going to Pton would cost $300k. Stanford would be zero and the compeition would be much better.

But it's not all about dollars - missy franklin is giving up a million dollars to compete in HS and college.

The real question is should they compete at the college level at all. We see runners abroad coming to their full maturity in the mid/long distance races younger and with better performances than the Americans. Is there something about the tempo of competitive events in college that stunts the growth of runners?

When you get past Salazar and the prestige of Oregon track I think the odds are stacked against Oregon. First of all, Cain may go directly pro the way she is going. Secondly, at the end of the day she is a female distance runner. No way should she expect good money from running track. If she has the grades to get to an Ivy League school or Stanford she should take it. Unless she wants to study sports marketing or something.

Not Oregon wrote:

Cain is turning pro from what I am hearing. Salazar coaching her now and giving her Nike's special benefits would make it impossible for her to attend Oregon. He is a booster obviously and has former role as volunteer coach on the staff. Salazar's long term plan for her is not to run in the NCAA but to be pro so as by-passing the whole NCAA system.

Finisher wrote:

I would have guessed Princeton 2 yrs ago for Cain, but they have been blazing their own trail these days so maybe not. Dr. Cain is on the school board and a Regis HS grad. Obviously taking his daughter's education seriously, but probably not above a free one.

Definitely not above a free one, as Regis High is free (boys only).

jjjjjjj wrote:

Finisher wrote:

I would have guessed Princeton 2 yrs ago for Cain, but they have been blazing their own trail these days so maybe not. Dr. Cain is on the school board and a Regis HS grad. Obviously taking his daughter's education seriously, but probably not above a free one.

Definitely not above a free one, as Regis High is free (boys only).

Why else on earth would I mention a factoid like Dad's HS?

Irish Catholics often choose Villanova. More impressive history than Oregon....

in ur dreams wrote:

^^ you are an absolute idiot and have no idea what you're talking about.

The Princeton women didn't even qualify for NCAA are not even the best in the Ivy League.

Stanford finished 3RD at NCAAs and has arguably the best coach in the NCAA

Ummm, hint: you don't judge the quality of a team / coaching staff / program on the basis of one season. You have to look at recent history and find that among the ivies, Princeton has been singularly dominant in cross country and distance track including 5 HEPS cross country titles in a row ('06-'10), multiple Indoor and Outdoor HEPS titles.

At the NCAA level, again, Princeton has shown time and again the ability to compete at the highest levels of Div. I competition, bar none. Names like Banfich, Higginson and Cummings stand out as legends within the ranks of the best NCAA women's distance runners. Princeton has the competitive strength to have had the entire team advance to the NCAA XC Finals a record eight years in a row ('03-'08). Banfich was 4th place in the '11 XC finals. Higginson was 5th in the '11 3K, and 3rd in the '10 steeplechase NCAA Finals. Greta Feldman took 5th place in the '12 1500 NCAA Finals.

Get the picture? No other ivy has as storied a distance running tradition over the past DECADE as Princeton.

Therefor, for an academically-oriented distance runner like Cain, from the NY Metro area, and born into a family that values the stellar academic opportunity, not to mention singular prestige, offered by a Princeton, Princeton is easily the logical choice for a Cain.

My money is on Cain going to Princeton.

Thoughts?

Ivy Dreams

Villanova has a track and field team???????/