Podunk wrote:
Place well at major invitationals, at your state meet series, at your state meet, and at your Footlocker or NXN Regional.
I second this. You have to be able to compete and finish high at these meets.
Podunk wrote:
Place well at major invitationals, at your state meet series, at your state meet, and at your Footlocker or NXN Regional.
I second this. You have to be able to compete and finish high at these meets.
webfoot wrote:
Podunk wrote:Place well at major invitationals, at your state meet series, at your state meet, and at your Footlocker or NXN Regional.
I second this. You have to be able to compete and finish high at these meets.
I've had a number of kids run in college, from top-10 DI programs down to some pretty small NAIA programs. Each one of them has looked for this in a recruit.
Yes, obviously these schools are extremely hard to get into- and i'm definitly not saying i'm anywhere near being looked at by those colleges. But I do plan on improving greatly over these next two years and i believe if I work hard enough and stay focused, anything is possible. I have grown and matured a lot from freshman year to now. Freshman year i was around 5'0-now i'm 5'8. I understand that the odds of getting into these schools are incredible, but i can at least strive to get in and fight for it. If not, there are plenty of other great options available..
Your times are decent as a sophomore, but you need to take the next step and work your way towards becoming an elite runner. A lot depends on what/how hard you trained this year and how much you can improve for next year as well as if you grow/get bigger and stronger. As a sophomore I ran 4:40 and 2:06 during the high school track season and then during the summer I ran a 4:16 1500m and a 9:27 3000m (4:35 1600m and about a 10:05 3200m) so my times are almost IDENTICAL. I worked extremely hard this winter and dropped to 4:22 and 1:56.5. YOU CAN DO IT. Also read this thread, it is about someone trying to drop down to a 4:27 1600m from a 4:47. I detailed what I did to get down to a 4:22 and 1:56. This year I would say you need to get down to 1:58/4:25/9:35-9:40 or a combination of two of those to be able to walk on/receive serious interest from d1 schools. It is definitely important to email coaches yourself and not to hope that they contact you. xc season for your junior year isn't as important because you still have your senior year of xc before you start applying for colleges. Good luck man you can achieve great things if you set your mind to it. I really do believe that if you work hard and believe that almost anything is possible.
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knapp, thanks for the encouraging feedback. I also believe that anything is possible if you set your mind to something and give it your all.
As far as training, my cross country coach is a triathlon coach as well so i am training for triathlons this summer. We do way more biking than swimming or running (biking up to 150 miles a week and only running around 20 miles per week). Should i be running more miles to be in better condition for cross country? If so how many should i be doing? Thanks
You are only running 20 miles per week going into your junior year? You aren't serious about running. Your sophomore times don't indicate you are an exceptional talent, so if you want to become an elite HS runner you need to train for it.
Assuming you are not a troll, search for 'summer of malmo' on this message board. Don't listent to any BS that triathlon training will make you an elite runner. If you want to pursue triathlon then do that and forget the fantasy of running xc/track in college.
webfoot is almost correct. If your times have been run on only triathalon training, it is possible they do indicate exceptional running talent but the only way to find out is to stop riding and swimming and run more, now.
20 miles a week running is what most kids are doing in junior high, so the obvious answer to your question about how to improve is to run a lot more. A lot.
If you sustained injuries off of 20 miles a week, good luck.
Just to give you some perspective - assuming you are not a troll, and even if you are -
Milesplit currently ranks your 1600 4:40 time as number 1,212 among the class of 2014. There are already 51 guys in your class under 4:20, and all of them are working hard this summer and also want to get attention of college coaches.
So despite what some of the other guys are telling you, 4:40 is not an exceptional time for a sophomore by any means.
You are doing a bit better with your 10:06 3200 - that ranks you number 808 among last year's sophomores. A couple of guys in your class are already sub 9.
Work hard.
I am not a "troll", during the summer we bike a ton and i'm concerned about our low mileage we have been running. The thing is though we ramp up the miles during the season when school starts (running every day) and it is a shock to my system because we put in a suddent jump in mileage and my body isnt used to it. I would definitly like to put in more miles but dont know what to say to my coach.
Make a be recruited online profile. I don't have any spectacular times and I have received a few offers from some Division 2 schools.
Not trying to hijack the thread, pretty sure the op's question has been answered and there's no reason for me to clutter up the boards with another useless college thread. I'm currently a sophmore I run a 4:29 1600, 2:01 800 and 16:35 5k. I consider myself more of a middle distance runner, i do pretty low milage year round (No more than 30mpw) and my academics are pretty good but nothing special (28 ACT, 3.9 GPA). The school i want to go to only has a cross country team, no track team although they do compete in a few meets. How should I go about contacting this coach? I'm sure they do alot more miles than I do right now. Would that be a good sign for potential or a bad sign that i wouldn't do well under college training?
PreXc546 wrote:
I am not a "troll", during the summer we bike a ton and i'm concerned about our low mileage we have been running. The thing is though we ramp up the miles during the season when school starts (running every day) and it is a shock to my system because we put in a suddent jump in mileage and my body isnt used to it. I would definitly like to put in more miles but dont know what to say to my coach.
IMHO biking and swimming are things we oldsters do to stay in running shape when the joints start to give out ... ;)
Such cross training isn't necessarily beneficial for up-and-coming runners. Mileage, sprint work, and weight training sessions are the three major building blocks for ensuring running success in youngsters.
PreXc546 wrote:
I would definitly like to put in more miles but dont know what to say to my coach.
How about something like this - "Hey Coach, good morning. I would like to do everything I can this summer to improve my chances of making a big improvement in my running this coming fall. Can you think of anything else I could be doing this summer? Would running more miles help?"
If he says yes, there you go.
If he says no, just go ahead and run some extra miles anyway. I'm assuming coach doesn't live with you or follow your every movement. After all, he doesn't own you - do whatever the heck you want.
The other approach is just to double and run your extra miles without even bringing it up. It's your life, my friend. Be a bit bolder.
noisome wrote:
PreXc546 wrote:I would definitly like to put in more miles but dont know what to say to my coach.
How about something like this - "Hey Coach, good morning. I would like to do everything I can this summer to improve my chances of making a big improvement in my running this coming fall. Can you think of anything else I could be doing this summer? Would running more miles help?"
If he says yes, there you go.
If he says no, just go ahead and run some extra miles anyway. I'm assuming coach doesn't live with you or follow your every movement. After all, he doesn't own you - do whatever the heck you want.
The other approach is just to double and run your extra miles without even bringing it up. It's your life, my friend. Be a bit bolder.
So if you are just going to do it anyway, why are you asking?
It looks by this thread he's serious about running. BS that triathlon training will make you an elite runner? Ever heard of Verzbicas? (oh, but that's only one example) Webb? Yes, guess who was a competitive swimmer for 10 years before his 3:53? Alan says himself that played a crucial role in his endurance. Swimming and biking can play a huge role in training as they are impact-free, so you can fit more in safely. What high school runners, besides the ones running 80+ mpw, can sustain a 2 hour workout (like on a bike)? He says he has had injuries doing 20 mpw, so while like 40 would probably be better, maybe the cross training is just what he needs as his mileage gradually bumps up during xc season.
You are a massive troll. JK. Are there any other runners your coach is currently coaching that is benefiting from this type of training?
Can someone turn these times into what it takes for a female to get noticed at DI, DII, DII, and Ivy League schools? My daughter is a 4.3 student but doesn't have stellar times yet (she is barely going into 10th grade)
Here's a chart I found that I think is reasonable (although some will argue no doubt!)
1600m
5:50 - 5:59 = average girl
5:36 - 5:49 = above average girl
5:20 - 5:35 = good girl (D2, D3, NAIA recruit)
5:06 - 5:19 = Division 1 recruit
5:05 and under = Elite (high end D1 recruit)
3200m
12:01 - 12:30 = average girl
11:45 - 12:00 = above average girl
11:21 - 11:44 = good girl (D2, D3, NAIA recruit)
11:00 - 11:20 = Division 1 recruit
10:59 and under = Elite (high end D1 recruit)