Kevin Castille 28:57 10k at age 40!

MyNameIsMuddy wrote:

So in 2004 he was 33-34 yo. and you would not think that he would slow down after 6-7 years? I know there is a huge difference between your early 30's and your 40's. The recovery time is a real issue as the injuries.

i didn't say that. what's hard to know is if his times at 33-34 were the best he had. was he overtraining? undertraining? how often did he race? how did the race play out? for example, i ran 14:29 5k on the track in a torrential (but non-windy) downpour in 2010. if i run faster than that in perfect conditions next year at the age of 45, will it look suspicious?

but, i will say this: he does not necessarily have to slow down MUCH between 6-7 years when we're looking at 30-40. we're seeing you don't necessarily have to slow down MUCH even from 40-45+ (see dennis simonaitis' carlsbad times); however, i have no problem predicting castille will run slower at 45 than at 40. how much slower is tougher to guess, though, due exactly to the two things you point out: recovery time and injuries.

Here, here! This is a great post! I attended a seminar last night by Kevin, and I can only say that he is the nicest, most sincere, humblest guy you'd ever want to meet. He's clearly more excited about his daughter, than he is about himself. You twits that pull out your knee-jerk PED accusations need to learn about a guy, their lives, and their history before you go spouting your inane, slanderous venom. I'm not going to go into great detail, except to acknowledge that I think he would agree with much of the above (he didn't touch on all the points above, so I can't say about the chiropractor, for example); in the case of 11. though, he's still a pretty high-mileage guy, and he does have the time to train properly. The one thing that I will tell you is that the biggest change that has happened for him in the last year is that in moving to Kentucky from Louisiana it has allowed him to do a lot more hill training, which he said has been key. I should note that Brian Pilcher, who also has been showing phenomenal success, also does a lot of hill running, living north of San Francisco.

So it's HILLS, not pills, that is the story here.

That's all I got to say; the doubters can now go back to hating on this really nice guy with their simpleton explanations.

Good day.

Great list. I might add massage therapy (or even rollers) if you can afford it.

lucKY2b wrote:Here, here!

Um....Hear! Hear!

My bad...need more coffee.

Dennis Simonaitis ran 30:08 @ 45+ ; try that when you get there..

This is actually a pretty good template for anyone aspiring to getting fit or fast(er).

Even if Kevin is a 5k/10k runner - don't just lock in to that distance every time. Go shorter. Go longer. The variety will only help when it comes to the optimum racing distance - physically and mentally.

Wish I could have afforded the monthly massages over the years.

Keep racing the youngsters!

cheers

What might be more interesting is his actual training plan / workout structure so that he can run sub 29 at 40 years of age. The ancillary stuff has been posted, how about his week to week stuff, more effort based than time based, etc. This is where the real meat and potatoes will be.

You attended a clinic, not a seminar. Furthermore, it was not help last night, but two nights ago.

coorection: "it was not held" in place of "it was not help"

ghost4runner wrote:

What might be more interesting is his actual training plan / workout structure so that he can run sub 29 at 40 years of age. The ancillary stuff has been posted, how about his week to week stuff, more effort based than time based, etc. This is where the real meat and potatoes will be.

Old but still:

More verbose:

http://johnsrunwalkshop.com/askkevin

Solid post and thanks for getting it back on the + track. This thread was meant to and should be a celebration of a significant masters' achievement.

AstuteObserver wrote:

You attended a clinic, not a seminar. Furthermore, it was not help last night, but two nights ago.

Clinic/seminar, whatever. He got up, told us a bunch of stuff, then answered questions. There wasn't anything hands on, so it felt more like a seminar to me. And yes it was last night, Tuesday, April 10th.

Well, so we should all start doing some heavy hill training and in a few months we will be breaking the 55 minutes for the ten miles and the 29 minutes for the 10K.

I am glad to that someone finally explained the true reason why this guy is getting older and faster.

Marion Jones and Eddy were doing lots hill training...Too bad it was not enough for them. Maybe it was their diet.

I love the really nice guy image.

I am sorry, but you guys are absolutely stupid if you think someone is going to drug themselves up at 40 to get the little bit of 'fame' that the running world gets.. which is barely any. Frankly, not many people even care about running. Yea, this guy is REALLY going to do that. Has anyone considered that he just really loves running? Of course not. Quit being jealous.

the used to be cancer guy wrote:

I think, last time I checked, he does a steady diet of 100 mile weeks in the Lafayette area. Here are times going back to 2005.

http://athlinks.com/racer/results/82805183

Consistent 100 miles at age 40 is ITSELF quite a feat, but there's absolutely nothing on that list suggestive of a 28:57. Not even close. He had quite a breakthrough. Same for 14:01.

FWIW, New Zealand's John Campbell was running these kinds of times at 40.

This list was not intended as to the reasons behind Kevin Castilles breakthrough, but rather a list of supplementary stuff that he may or may not have included in his training.

However if he didn't then at least consider incorporating them into your training. By doing so, you might just be able to enjoy many more years of healthy running and even set some new prs; instead of becoming bitter about your injuries and jealous of others in your age group who are running faster times.