So if it is a small school, like 800 kids, why not train them to be 2:05 marathoners? I mean there is no law of statistics that says you can't have a team of five or even seven 2:05 marathoners all from one school since size doesn't really matter, it's just a matter of better coaching.
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So if it is a small school, like 800 kids, why not train them to be 2:05 marathoners? I mean there is no law of statistics that says you can't have a team of five or even seven 2:05 marathoners all from one school since size doesn't really matter, it's just a matter of better coaching.
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School size matters because the more kids in the school, the higher the probability of talented kids.
Actually, depth is essential in a cross country program and Neal Levy has been able to create that by promoting a team culture of excellence. Girls deeply involved in the program, top 7 or not, buy into the program and see great results. If depth isn't necessary, then how come FM won nationals this year with two of their top runners injured? It's because the team has DEPTH...the girls aren't all national champions on their own but collectively they do amazing things.
Actually, depth is essential in a cross country program and Neal Levy has been able to create that by promoting a team culture of excellence. Girls deeply involved in the program, top 7 or not, buy into the program and see great results. If depth isn't necessary, then how come FM won nationals this year with two of their top runners injured? It's because the team has DEPTH...the girls aren't all national champions on their own but collectively they do amazing things.
This is the second year Coach Levy has cut out work-outs. The girls had been doing the traditional style training which worked for some but girls presently on the team are responding better to long runs rather than mile repeats or tempo runs. They've already tried formal interval training and it hasn't given them as much success. Levy wouldn't have just forced this philosophy down anyones throat, he's all about "knowing your audience".
That was obnoxious. Getting girls with little natural talent who started running 25 minute 5ks to breaking 11:30 in the 3000 should be impressive. If not, sorry you undermine the products of hard work.
"people are people, size of the school doesn't change that"
So if there's a school of 5 kids and there's a school of 3,000 kids which school would be more likely to have kids fully committed to the sport?
Obviously the school of 3,000 kids but your argument sees both schools as having equal probability and that's a blatant logical fallacy.
We're talking about simple statistics.
Wrong. That's not 12:30 2-mile pace. That's a 12:16 2-mile...14 seconds is a big difference in this race. If ran evenly, each 200 meter mark would be run in 46 seconds; it wouldn't take someone running 11:30 to do the last 200 meters in a minute so it just doesn't convert.
Sam Nadel hasn't come within ten seconds of 4:35, I'd say yeah eventually. but NOT this year.
Pick any school in the country. Let's say Manlius. Now put all the other schools in the country against them. Are all the other coaches in the country better than Aris because there are several hundred girls from those schools under 18 for the 5k but Aris only has around 10?
Hey Tards, shutup and get back on topic.
So yeah, like someone mentioned, they basically turn endurance runs into tempo-like runs. 45min of pushing up hills and easing off down them. That's tempo-like and hill repeat-like.
And their top girl said that she did like 11 meets so far for indoor. There is her speedwork. That's 2 workouts a week for 6 weeks. And if she does a few events, 800,mile, 3000, then she gets in soem speed and endurance. Same thing for outdoor. For Xc she just works on race-specific endurance by usign the races a workout.
So it's just lightly structured training, not free from speedwork.
Did it ever occur to anybody that they could be lying or exaggerating how often they don't do track work? I wouldn't blame them. If I had one of the greatest 4 by 800s and DMRs in the country I wouldn't spill my training secrets.
They don't even have a track right now. It's under construction.