Daniels 1500/3000 for HS runners

if you have the book, it should have a chart of how to break down the weeks. I don't have my book on hand, but...

Don't skip phase 1.... I think it'll probably come out to 4, 3, 3, 2 at the four phases.

thanks!

I'm counting on the kids to do Phase I on their own in the off-season. They're pretty dependable and motivated, so we should be ready to start at Phase II. Each phase II-IV has 6 weeks, so I have 18 weeks scheduled and 12 to work with.

Hopefully the kids will do phase 1 on their own over the winter.

OP, you should have a meeting with your kids at the end of XC season about getting together to run. But unless you have a great leader or two and a lot of really dedicated kids, they probably will not do enough. So, don't skip phase 1.

As Coach A pointed out, there is a chart that Daniels includes that helps break down a season into Periods, based on how many total weeks you have. He REALLY favors Phase III. Personally, for the long-term benefit of your runners, I would say favor Phase 1 and 2. Give phase 3 it's due, but that phase is full of longer VO2 max style intervals. Depending on how fit your kids are, this phase could just kill them. If they're not already really fit and have a couple years under their belts, a long phase 3 could result in not finishing workouts or hitting goal times and then feeling really beat up by the end of it, instead of ready to race the big meets.

Maybe consider keeping it more XC oriented this winter and then start the phases 16 weeks out from outdoor states.

madrunner wrote:

Looking for some advice here. I'm going to use the Daniels 1500-3000 training plan for my HS runners this year. Here's the question; I have 12 weeks to work with (including the week of sectionals). How should I break the 12 weeks up if I start in phase II?

For ex: 4 weeks each in Phase II, III, and IV? Or some other variation.

I'm pretty new at this, so i'm looking for constructive feedback.

For ALL of your runners? What if they are 800m runners? Would you still follow the 1500/3k plan?

p.69 2nd edition

assuming the kids do 4 weeks of phase I, the next 12 weeks would be: 3 weeks of phase II, 6 weeks of phase III, and 3 weeks of phase IV

We have a 200/400/800 coach and a 1500/3000 coach (me).

Some of my guys might run the 4x800 or even the 400 at select events, but they train as 1500/3000 guys because they are more likely to enter those events during conference/sectionals. Another coach takes the 200/400/800 guys.

thanks! I can't believe I kept missing that.

madrunner wrote:

Looking for some advice here. I'm going to use the Daniels 1500-3000 training plan for my HS runners this year. Here's the question; I have 12 weeks to work with (including the week of sectionals). How should I break the 12 weeks up if I start in phase II?

For ex: 4 weeks each in Phase II, III, and IV? Or some other variation.

I'm pretty new at this, so i'm looking for constructive feedback.

My coach used to combine the Daniels plan with this:

I would do 800M training one week and then next week I did the 2 mile training. It ended up working perfectly for the whole team. Wouldn't hurt to try it.