Steve Jobs RIP

jobs wasn't at apple (next) in the late 80s and early 90s.

Watch out Coach D.... I asked about Flash twice and the post was deleted.

Apparently I should haved added something offensive about Obama or Jews to get past the mods.

Flagpole wrote:

He was great in his second stint at Apple

Once again, that was primarily because Microsoft bailed them out with a $150 million donation in 1997. A lot of savvy businessmen would have been "great" at reviving Apple under similar circumstances!

coach d wrote:

Apple is a toy, marketed at people who don't know much about computers. Always has been...

Even back then, Apples were toys for people who can't do real computing...and Suns (and Apollos, and networked windows workstations) were real tools for real people who knew what they were doing to build real products.

The thing is that besides IT professionals, nobody cares, particularly the corporate and educational leaders who employ IT professionals. My experience has been that they just want their system to do whatever it needs to do.

You say that Apple products are toys. I'd argue to some people, computers are toys, but to most of us, they are just tools, and if a Mac is the preferred tool for a job, we'll use it without regard to your or anyone else's perception of what constitutes "real computing."

'ukathleticscoach could you change your nickname please. you're becoming an embarrasment to people from the UK. How Steve Jobs affected you personally has little to do with the millions of people who really felt like he did connect with them and did change their lives. Your judgement of their situations and rolling out the old cliches about people who really deserve credit not getting it, are unwarranted, and in this case inaccurate.'

What like you do every 5 mins, try and get some balls. A million flies like sh1t does not mean I have to. If you think having a slightly better phone changes your life then you are a sad b@stard. Most people only get the products to keep up with the Jones's

jjjjjjjjjj wrote:

jobs wasn't at apple (next) in the late 80s and early 90s.

Yeah, but the Macs were all his doing.

rhat wrote:

coach d wrote:

Apple is a toy, marketed at people who don't know much about computers. Always has been...

Even back then, Apples were toys for people who can't do real computing...and Suns (and Apollos, and networked windows workstations) were real tools for real people who knew what they were doing to build real products.

The thing is that besides IT professionals, nobody cares, particularly the corporate and educational leaders who employ IT professionals. My experience has been that they just want their system to do whatever it needs to do.

You say that Apple products are toys. I'd argue to some people, computers are toys, but to most of us, they are just tools, and if a Mac is the preferred tool for a job, we'll use it without regard to your or anyone else's perception of what constitutes "real computing."

Furthermore, this is EXACTLY what Jobs set out to do when he started Apple: Make computers accessible to people who knew nothing about them. He placed zero expectations on the consumer to a) know what they wanted in a computer b) have any idea how a computer worked. One could say that he did this pretty well.

Pittsburgh Joe wrote:

Furthermore, this is EXACTLY what Jobs set out to do when he started Apple: Make computers accessible to people who knew nothing about them. He placed zero expectations on the consumer to a) know what they wanted in a computer b) have any idea how a computer worked. One could say that he did this pretty well.

One COULD say that, but how much credit does he truly deserve for cornering a massive 6% of the operating system world?

When a young kid with ripped jeans and a goatee said you will have your own computer on your desk in a few years, I had no idea what he was talking about.

I only wish that he focused a little more on the global picture when it came to manufacturing. He was very competitive and probably pushed out by the American business system --- so he went to China when the time came.

That was a mistake for this country.

how many are you posting from ur iPhone or Mac? right now...

jus curious wrote:

how many are you posting from ur iPhone or Mac? right now...

I'm not.. in fact never used an apple product. Didn't know who the dood was till errybody started ranting about his death...

I'm not sure what your question is? I had an Apple IIe, but never had another Apple product other than an early Ipod as a gift. But I'm old school.

I don't even know what ur means.

Steve Jobs impressed me as a reticent salesman when I met him. But I was just a kid then.

I have an iPod and it's certainly a cool toy, but come on. Mac's influence on the world is way, way overstated. You want influential? The revolution in computing is only possible because of advances in circuit design techniques, which came mostly from Japan as the electronics companies tried to make smaller and smaller cell phones. Nothing to do with Jobs.

Some Japanese guys you've never heard of are a thousand times more important than Steve Jobs was.

Obviously his impact was in the entertainment industry, which is only created in the USA. That is where all of his wealth came from -- not from APPL.

Go figure?

Please give us the list of those important Japanese guys so all the world can know.

Go figure?

It's insane to shortchange what Jobs has done and how he has affected not just the US, but Society (as in Humanity). He clearly was an Edison of our times. You think Edison "invented" all that he's credited with? Do some googling... both were Marketing geniuses.

I'm going to blog about this elsewhere, but go back 6-7 years. How many cooperate execs (or wanna-be's) were walking around looking like the Borg with their glowing Bluetooth earpieces in. These days those same folks have glaringly retro, white headphones with a cord that look distinctly like transistor radio ear pieces from the 60s and early seventies. The cord is cool and hip? How did that happen? Look at iPod ads from a fews years back with the dancing silhouettes and their hip CORDS! That's the world's best marketing in a nutshell. Make your drawbacks desirable!

Dirty South wrote:

He clearly was an Edison of our times.

The link brought up an ad for an iPad version of dictionary.com ( since I'm on an iPad) instead of a definition.

You've never heard about them; that's the point.

He was a cult hero!