Wrong, I know EVERYTHING about the "insults" I'm throwing around.
And the biggest insult here is to the "Olympic spirit" itself, and to the concept of a WC competition and the honor it represents to be given an opportunity.
Wrong, I know EVERYTHING about the "insults" I'm throwing around.
And the biggest insult here is to the "Olympic spirit" itself, and to the concept of a WC competition and the honor it represents to be given an opportunity.
What blows my mind is you guys keep talking about 10k pace, he is running the 5000!
This thread shows the essential nature of too many people on letsrun.
None of you know the severity of Solinsky's problem. His overall record as an athlete speaks for itself. Some of you people would have to rise in stature considerably to even qualify as pathetic.
Touche. Haha thanks for the correction!
By the way, I had to self-censor that previous post considerably before it would even go through. I was told to try and be positive. What's up with that? I don't see much that's "positive" here.
Yeah. Or maybe he had been taking risks of running lots more mileage than his rivals and it finally caught up to him. Try using the simplest explanation before moving on to conspiracy theories.
letsbehonest.com wrote:
lets be honest, if this was anyone other than solinsky we would be screaming drugs.
between the HUGE drop in his 5k/10k times and 'withdrawing' from the heavily drug tested WCs, something is up.
People have been saying it'll be interesting who drops out of Worlds with the new "everyone gets tested" rule. As so far we have had some pretty big names drop from the Championships Americans and Non-Americans.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was all just a ploy.
CamD wrote:
The problem with US distance runners is they are always focusing on "next year" and when "next year" gets here they are focusing on "next year" again or "4 years" from now to medal at the og's. Some of these africans run marathons in the fall, xc in the spring and track in the summer. The midd guys would run indoor. some even running xc and then of course track in the summer. Even if its one marathon or half. Or a couple xc races and then worlds. (seriously we need to start sending our best to worlds). Its not like they are over racing where as these american guys train the whole year and update there twitter every week and update us on a good work out they did or how they are looking forward to big things this summer. Seriously guys. Shutup and race. We are tired of waiting 7 months to see you guys race and then dns or dnf.
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If you are tired, then get your ass out there and train.
A random hamstring injury?? Right...
He tried to treat it, didn't respond, kept re-injuring it, wasn't able to do more than jog, not on drugs, genuine person, assumptions make you an ass. period!
How much does it cost CS to not actually go to Worlds? He probably had a pay day for qualifying. Nike cannot be happy. I wonder about risk-reward ratios?
ryan foreman wrote:
Yeah. Or maybe he had been taking risks of running lots more mileage than his rivals and it finally caught up to him.
That's what I'm suspicious of. Last year after running 26:59, he said he didn't even know how much mileage he had been running. He said on his twitter that he added it up, and it was 90-something over the entire season--and this was in May, so the average was before taking into account tapering/competition for the summer.
This year, I've seen people posting here about a large increase, to something like 120 or 130. This site is of course famous for a bunch of wannabes with OCD that always exaggerate mileage numbers, and Jerry is equally famous for keeping his mouth shut about training. Chris has said that they run workouts throughout the season and that about 1 of every 5 workouts is a speed workout. We also know from Chris that they do long tempo runs, up to 15 miles from what I've read.
If you combine how people think they're training with significantly higher milage, you see an athlete that pushed over the edge.
So Chris will sit on his butt, with an injured hamstring, and watch a guy who runs half as many miles a week...win a medal in the same event.
That's what high mileage will do for you.
I feel very sorry for you that you allow something that has no influence on your life affect you in such a way that you feel the need to lash out at someone you have never met with such hate and anger. These are people not punching bags for you to belittle so that you feel some sense of self-worth. I pity you.
bangalangadanga wrote:
that "no racing" policy is literal bullshiite. it really does suck that chris will look back on 2011 and see a really good 4200m split in a 5k, a 3:54 mile and a 3:35-3:36 1500 at stanford. not trying to take the mile and 1500 ... they are great. 3:36 translates to a sub 13:00... the "no racing" policy has got to go.
an interview with lagat on flotrack said it best. the kenyans have been racing since january. practice makes perfect and practicing the 5k is what needs to be done. sorry for rambling.
Agreed...the Africans run a lot of time trials at their chosen distance. It is one aspect of Lydiard's philosophy that they espouse.
Well, it's not like he was going to medal. It will probably be a tactical race and Solinsky cannot begin to run with the Africans for a lap or 2. So, if he is in doubt, then he shouldn't go.
However, if he has been hurt all season, why go to Europe to run 10 laps of a 5k? That really makes no sense.
I hope he gets healthy and runs some races next year, not just the trials. He's going to make Riztenheim look like a weekend warrior if he has too many more seasons like this.
I'm probably late in realizing this, but Sprint Geezer must be one of the absolute worst posters on LR. And on this site, that's saying a something.
I'm not saying Solinksy is doping, but I find this very strange that the LRC says for near a month that they want to see who drops out because; from which I have inferred based on the posts that these people would have been assumed to be dopers. Even Kip and Bekele have been speculated as potential drop-outs due to drugs, and on the sprint sides Pretty much all of the American and Jamaican Sprint teams have been under suspect. But now Solinsky drops out due to an injury and its automatically that he is not doping, but instead he is truly injured. This mood seems hypocritical to me. Why is the LRC not asking if Solinksy is doping? This is a highly suspect move, at a terrible time, and with the testing at World's wouldn't this be a fear for Solinsky as well as the other athletes? So either our mood should be that everyone who drops out of World's due to injury is really injured and we believe their story, or we suspect everyone who drops out of doping.
If Usain Bolt had dropped out due to this injury, would we believe him, or would we say his past times were the result of doping and since he tried to go clean this year and couldn't hit the same fast times he went back to doping and is thus scared. Based on what I've read I think I know what the answer would be.
Why is Solinksy so special that he is above being accused of this, whereas a lot of athletes would immediately receive this accusation, or still do even though they are competing (at least all the Jamaican sprinters).
Folgers cut off his coffee supply and he knew he'd never run sub-13:00 or finish in :53 in the Worlds final without that good stuff. So he fabricated the hamstring story. Very sad. Let's hope he can re-negotiate a deal before 2012 rolls around.
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