Euge wrote:
Honestly, "In the know..." from an objective standpoint you have not done any real research either.
I see you saying alot of scientific-sounding things but instead of picking them apart one-by-one I think I am just going to point out that the scientific community has a standard for "good science" called: peer-review.
Until you can produce peer-reviewed scientific literature instead of pop-pseudo-scientific youtube videos I recommend everyone take what you say with a grain of salt...at best...
Yes, I urge everyone to take what I have to say with a grain of salt as well. And you're right; I am saying a lot of scientific-sounding things. (I'm always hesitant to post because my words sound contentious, but I'm seriously being geniune.) I would argue that Ancel Keys' studies upon which the USDA has based its nutrition guidelines is pseudo-science. The only reason I posted those videos is because they are in layman's terms and easy for people to understand. I can find plenty of studies that display these findings in scientific terms. However, I personally do not have time to do an in-depth metaanalysis of the literature (which Taubes and others have done), or the time or funding to do my own study at this point.
Here are some examples of the type of science that seems to get ignored:
http://atvb.ahajournals.org/content/12/8/911.full.pdf+htmlhttp://www.ajcn.org/content/67/3/577S.full.pdf+html"On the basis of the meta-analysis of several studies, it is clear
that compared with high-carbohydrate diets, high-monounsaturated-fat diets improve lipoprotein profiles as well as the
glycemic profile. Overall, high-monounsaturated-fat diets
reduce fasting plasma triacylglycerol and VLDL-cholesterol
concentrations by 19% and 22%, respectively, and cause modest
increases in HDL-cholesterol concentrations without adversely
affecting LDL-cholesterol concentrations. The improvement in
the glycemic profile with high-monounsaturated-fat diets may
not be related to changes in insulin sensitivity but to a reduction
in the carbohydrate load, which patients with type 2 diabetes
may not be able to handle readily because of severe insulin resistance and b cell defects. High-monounsaturated-fat diets may
also reduce the susceptibility of LDL particles to oxidation and
thereby reduce their atherogenic potential. Whether highmonounsaturated-fat diets can improve blood pressure needs to
be investigated further. Furthermore, a high-monounsaturated-fat
diet should not induce weight gain in patients provided that
energy intake is controlled. Therefore, this dietary approach can
be recommended to type 2 diabetes patients who are trying to
maintain or lose weight. In conclusion, diets rich in cis-monounsaturated fats may be advantageous for improving lipoprotein
and glycemic profiles in patients with diabetes mellitus."
http://www.ajcn.org/content/91/3/535.short"Conclusions: A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD. More data are needed to elucidate whether CVD risks are likely to be influenced by the specific nutrients used to replace saturated fat."
I could cite more if you'd like. Basically, I agree. You're right. I have not done the research... maybe I should have named myself "Curious" instead of "In the know..." I do however feel very passionately about this issue, so at times, it is very easy for me to put on blinders. That's why I invite all contrary evidence. However, I have yet to find "good science" that refutes these findings. The reason I cite these findings is because it is the same science that stops people from embarking on a low-carb/high-fat diet that will help them lose weight even if they know this to be true from experience. These studies show the hang up, which people cannot get past.
Thanks for your comments.