Golden State Runner wrote:
Here's the action sequence of the above photo:
http://jimrhoades.com/10/boston/30k/page59.html
what's the action sequence?
Golden State Runner wrote:
Here's the action sequence of the above photo:
http://jimrhoades.com/10/boston/30k/page59.html
what's the action sequence?
Study of K.Litton Running wrote:
what's the action sequence?
It runs from left to right, top to bottom. Kip is believed to be the runner in the lower left hand shot with his bib completely covered up, next to Ms. 2573. In the previous shot, Ms. 2573 can be seen coming in the distance, and you would think that you would see a piece of Kip's left side. But instead, he just pops into the one picture hugging closely to the side of the road like he just jumped back in.
I wonder if the changing of caps along with his history could potentially be enough for the BAA to DQ him?
There is a lost and found section at MarathonFoto... although I don't really have the patience to sift through it.
Look at the guy behind 2076 in the photo before Litton's.
He's blocked by 2076 but looks like his head is turned as if something has caught his eye, like Kip jumping in maybe.
Let's just step back for a minute. One of the possibilities remaining is that he had an accomplice in all this. Indeed, some people think they see two different men dressed alike.Why would someone help Kip? What is in it for them? The only way someone would help (if that is the case) is if there is something in it for them. Vanity could lead someone to pay a helper from their own money, but man, you have a guy cutting courses, you have fake marathons, and you have someone running for charity... it starts to smell real bad. A wise man might come forward no and put an end to it before it gets worse.
Kyp Lyttyn wrote:
Study of K.Litton Running wrote:what's the action sequence?
It runs from left to right, top to bottom. Kip is believed to be the runner in the lower left hand shot with his bib completely covered up, next to Ms. 2573. In the previous shot, Ms. 2573 can be seen coming in the distance, and you would think that you would see a piece of Kip's left side. But instead, he just pops into the one picture hugging closely to the side of the road like he just jumped back in.
creepy kip wrote:
By his marathon foto, looks like the same watch:
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Note: the 2 photos have 2 different hats and the men look a little different. We could be looking at a 2 man operation similar to the movie The Prestige
The watch is what I noticed too. It appears to be the same watch. It's hard to tell if the glasses have the same orange tint because the head is dipped.
I noticed that the split times are pretty even ~20 mins each, but the split between 20k and 25k is a couple of minutes longer. This is where you pass by the screaming Wellesley wall. Is it possible the difficulty getting on and off the course through here took longer than expected?
Like all of you, I am puzzled as to how he is able to cut the course in certain races. Everyone has come up with interesting theories. There was a tv show that had a plotline in which a murder suspect used a marathon race as his alibi. (He actually did commit the murder, but fooled people for awhile by placing his chip on a golf cart or something that crossed every timing mat.) I think it aired about 10 yrs ago. Anyway, I'm not saying proposing that this was his method, but it's interesting nonetheless.
Just updated,
check out this image
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ik6d67YLaHY/TS9AeHVbG0I/AAAAAAAAAFY/7TSD03CMLeM/s1600/Boston2010.jpg
Do the facial features match?
Fellas,
One thing about these pix that no one pointed out - - look at the other runners - they are "second wavers" - their numbers are all in the 2000s. How does one run 2:52 while running with the second wavers at what is probably 7:30 pace. Very few of those other runners look fast, many look >50 yrs old. Where again in the race was this taken??? People look someone spaced out even for that pace, thus possibly later in the race. Hiss splits were allegedly mid 6's the whole way.
I did find a picture of his brother Kurt. They look similar but not that close. I didn't want to post his picture because he maybe innocent in all this.
florida oldtimer wrote:
I did find a picture of his brother Kurt. They look similar but not that close. I didn't want to post his picture because he maybe innocent in all this.
his bro Kurt ran Boston?
Why would you have to take off your hat?
To put on your bike helmet.
2000's is 2nd corral or 3rd if you count pros. Second wave starts around 15,000
I number in the 2000s is not second wave at Boston. Those numbers around him are about right for a 2:52.
Study of K.Litton Running wrote:
florida oldtimer wrote:I did find a picture of his brother Kurt. They look similar but not that close. I didn't want to post his picture because he maybe innocent in all this.
his bro Kurt ran Boston?
No, I found it on his work website.
Lone gunman wrote:
Fellas,
One thing about these pix that no one pointed out - - look at the other runners - they are "second wavers" - their numbers are all in the 2000s. How does one run 2:52 while running with the second wavers at what is probably 7:30 pace. Very few of those other runners look fast, many look >50 yrs old. Where again in the race was this taken??? People look someone spaced out even for that pace, thus possibly later in the race. Hiss splits were allegedly mid 6's the whole way.
In 2009 I was in the front of the 2nd wave and my number was in the 14,000s...I don't think 2000s are 2nd wave...
florida oldtimer wrote:
I did find a picture of his brother Kurt. They look similar but not that close. I didn't want to post his picture because he maybe innocent in all this.
Kurt's profile pic on FB could conceivably be the guy on the right hand side of the photos posted earlier (that compare two runners). They both have small mouths and thin lips and enough of the face is covered up that it could be either Kip or Kurt. It's probably not Kurt, but the possibility is there.
They look awfully alike - same glasses I bet, similar caps. A costume change basically. Why is the KL found in Rhodes photo dressed like it's 20 degrees out. Most everyone else is in shorts and tanks. He is also at the extreme edge of the road - easy on, easy off.
btw, Monk would have figured this all out already.
Sorry, I meant second corral, not wave. The times I ran Boston, 2:52 would have handily got you in the first corral. Do you really think the others in the action sequence look like 2:52ers? I dont.
All these people are legit and probably faster than you. What you're saying doesn't make any sense. Check their bib #s, genius.