WHEATING 3:30.9

snotlocker wrote:

.."guys like Andrews light a fire under the Wheatings assess.""

...i'd sure run 6s pr if my "assess" were on fire...

Ok, I'll admit I'm a slow learner when it comes to this[/] board, but why do people insist on characterizing this as a "six" second PR? While technically it is (closer to five and change since he ran roughly a 3:31), it's really only a three second PR based on the conversion from Pre, and that was a race where I think Wheating finally realized he could run with sub-3:50 guys. He as much said so and looked like he had a lot left.

As others have pointed out, he beat 3:34, 35, and 36 guys, essentially with ease, during a meaningless collegiate season. Give him a few weeks, some sharpening, a PR in the 800, the atmosphere of a fast, European meet, and abracadabra.... he shows his real fitness. I doubt he runs faster this year in the 1500, but what a stepping stone.

Fukk, I need to stop typing so fast and start editing. Brojos, the lamest, cheapest thing about your site is that you need a post-editing tool, not just a preview.

Man, Krummenacker just can't seem to finish a race. I hope he can figure it out and put a whole race together in the future.

idiot

hatetosaybutcomeon wrote:

Drugs anyone? We have to be suspicious. Yes the dude is talented but come on he isn't even a sub 14 5k runner and he goes and runs this?

Has he ever entered a 5k in college? That's like saying he's not a sub 2:20 marathoner? It's pretty hard to be a sub 14 5k runner if you never enter 5k's.

And seriously. It's not that weird for a young athlete with several years of solid injury-free training to peak hard, get in fast races, and have huge breakthroughs.

While I get the absurd guidelines for College Records etc.

It makes no sense whatsoever to be able to set a CR, if you have either graduated, OR are out of eligibility, after your NCAA meet in your last possible college season .

This would go for Wheating or anyone else for that matter, not picking on him.

I am not sure how any of this could count even for UO record pursposes either, when he is clearly done with them and was after he was out of Oregon eligibility, which was NCAA meet finale, including signing or agreeing to an agency agreement prior to these latest marks.

It just defies logic on how some of these records are kept and posted.

trialswatcher wrote:

While I get the absurd guidelines for College Records etc.

It makes no sense whatsoever to be able to set a CR, if you have either graduated, OR are out of eligibility, after your NCAA meet in your last possible college season .

You can graduate and still race in the NCAA as a grad student if you've got eligibility left. Wheating has a XC country season of eligibility left and wasn't pro at the time of his Pre mile or 3:30.9 so...

lol, he's the pacer.

I don't get what the big deal is. I just watched the race and he was never even close to being in contention for the win. It's a sad day when a 4th place finisher in a decent meet gets this kind of cred.

I guess tags are necessary on Letsrun.

He knows this and is an excellent actor.

Acetracking wrote:

"He ran what he ran". Yes,yes,yes! Fantastic remark. You certainly know your stuff.

Well then please list your ideal conditions in a rabbited European race. He ran a 3:30.9 not a handicapped 3:30.00. Please enlighten us with the other finishers handicapped adjusted times due to how much further they ran and other factors that affected the fastest 1500m race in 4 years.

jjjjjjjjj wrote:

latently homosexual teenager wrote:

If only he was still in college......

Both those are collegiate records out of season, so he qualifies. He's still running in a UO singlet anyway.

Apparently then, UO is spelled U-S-A in Monaco.

I know it is very debatable but the argument could be made that all of the training and work that went in to this performance was done at UO and it is an extension of his season from that standpoint. That could be a reason why they are counting the Monoco race as a UO Record. It would be interesting to know if Vin and Andrew had it planned in their training to run the fastest times at this point of the season rather than the NCAA's or PRE.

sperring wrote:

jjjjjjjjj wrote:

Both those are collegiate records out of season, so he qualifies. He's still running in a UO singlet anyway.

Apparently then, UO is spelled U-S-A in Monaco.

As long as it follows the same rules they have for records in the past, I can't see how there would be an issue. As pointed out Wheating still had a season of cross left if he wanted it and an entire 5th year to finish school if he were doing what A LOT of D1 runners do and redshirt at some point. If Andrew is 21 or 22 and still had eligibility left than he deserves to set CRs as much as 25-26 year old Kenyan, Brit or Mormon athletes.

jjjjjjjj wrote:

oh, I'm an idiot now.

Perhaps, if you keep insisting Wheating must be suspected of doping.

Lets now wait for wheating's sub 3:50 mile.

*Very* funny, h.m.! You hit it with this one. :-)