SO WHAT: Christophe Lemaitre became the first white man to break 10.00

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13 years ago 07/30/2010 9:04pm EDT

re: tagurit

So Lemaitre gets Euro gold in the 100m and 200m and VIPAM hasn't apologized yet?

Malmo:

You go on and on about obscure Kenyan juniors, whose age verification has been proven to be inaccurate time and time again, yet you cannot see that Christophe Lemaitre's 9.98, the 3rd fastest ever for someone 20 years old or younger, is worth talking about?

You're an ignorant, race-baiting fool.

Renato Canova:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3633312&page=1

3) The Federation nothing can do for controlling the real age. This because the most part of the athletes, at the beginning of their career, don't have any document (also the normal ID). In the past, approaching the World Youth Championships, many athletes went to compete (5-7 years older) without producing any document, and, if qualified in top 2 or 3, only AFTER they went to ask for a birth certificate (of course, in this case, not real), and, after having this certificate, asking for their first Passport (they could have it ONLY with the permit of AK).

When AK understood that the most part of these athletes were overage, they put a rule that may be not correct, but is the only way for reducing the problem : ONLY STUDENTS COULD COMPETE, AND THEIR CLASS WAS THE PROOF OF THEIR AGE.

4) Really, what happens in Kenya is that, on the mountains, many children start to go to school not when are 6 years old, but when are 10. So, in any case, it's not possible to have a perfect control on the situation.

13 years ago 07/30/2010 9:49pm EDT

re: douglas burke

You're right; Dixon, De Castella, Smith were tearing up the roads. And they weren't facing exclusion from American races. The reason, of course, is that they did not have the genetic advantage that African runners have. Dixon, De Castella, Nick Rose, etc...all have European genes. They had no biological advantage over Americans.

How can you not know this?

12 years ago 06/25/2011 12:25am EDT

re: VIPAM

First of all making people answer these funky questions so that they can post is kind of bizare especially since I am commenting on a sprint controversy and the question to be able to post refers to distance runners, anyway I am a multi year all american jumper and sprinter. I just happen to be mixed descent black and white so what and any sprinter will tell you running a sub 10 second 100 meter is an incredible accomplishment period. Secondly many people exhibit racist behaviors with out even recognizing them. Yes this is being blown out of perspective and I would bet that guys like Usain bolt and Tyson gay are happy for the French guy because they understand the dedication and training it takes to get to a point to run that fast. Yes some people are born fast but to get under 10 seconds it takes sprint mechanics training lots of plyos and A sprinters killer instinct for sport and many other factors to be great, yes prejudice exists black,white,yellow red, whatever when people say white men can't jump I say Jonathan Edwards when they say Black men cannot be leaders I say Barack Obama, why limit yourself I respect distance runners and if they put on sprint spikes I will blow them off the track so deal with it

12 years ago 06/25/2011 12:39am EDT

re: flomastr

Who cares what Vipam thinks? Everyone knows he's a white-hating racist blowhard who's time away from the computer is spent leisurely sucking on any black cock he can find, whether it belongs to a E. African runner or a homeless drunk who's just finished taking a big dump in his own pants.

12 years ago 06/25/2011 12:47am EDT

re: Ignore the raycisst

Message:

him and v^3 should get married

12 years ago 06/25/2011 1:23am EDT

re: VIPAM

Barack Obama became president. WHo cares and so what?

12 years ago 06/25/2011 9:49am EDT

Ernest Chan wrote:
One day we'll get to see Vipam make a post about the first black man to break 100 in an IQ test. That will be interesting. Might be a ways off though.

Wow.

What a bunch of whiny little babies. Do not want to -- or should I say cannot --confront the obvious racism inherent in the buzz over LeMaitre. Toothless little beeyatches

12 years ago 06/25/2011 9:56am EDT

re: The New UncleB

I wonder if VIPAM says "SO WHAT" every time we have to put up with "this is the first time a balck person has..." or "Now he is the first black person to...."

When Obama was elected, did he say "SO WHAT-Obama becomes the first black man elected president. There are many other good white citizens in this country who are patriotic too."? After all, there were 43 presidents before him--all white.

Obviously Vipam is just another racist, prejudiced a--hole.

6 years ago 08/02/2017 2:11am EDT

re: Ghost of Pietro

Ghost of Pietro wrote:
Black guys of West African descent all over the world (thanks to slavery) had broken 10.00 but no white guy ever had. Now one white guy squeaks under. That's noteworthy because clearly it's HARDER for a white guy to do it. Franklin Jacobs or Stefan Holm highjumping 7'8" is more impressive than Javier Sotomayor or Patrick Sjoberg doing it because there's about a foot more of an obstacle to be overcome. Same with the interest in Solinsky's 10K; I'd say it's as much because he's about 25 pounds heavier than anyone else who's gone under 27 as it is because he's white. People love unusual performances of any kind. LeMaitre (the Master!) ran 9.98 EVEN THOUGH he's white. He overcame an obstacle that guys like Greene and Gay and Powell and Bolt don't have in their way. Hasn't everyone here thought it's weird that a huge number of black guys have broken 10 and no white guy ever had? And it's not just "black guys" --it's West African-descent black guys. No Kenyan or Ethiopian or Eritrean or Somalian black guy has broken 10, either! I'd be interested in LeMaitre's 9.98 did no matter what color I was, just like I'd be interested if a black woman won the Olympic vault, an Asian guy won a big 1500, or an Ethiopian broke 10 in the 100 meters, and like probably most of us were when Liu Xiang broke the 110m hurdles record (a much bigger deal than LeMaitre). Why does it have to be about PREFERRING a race and not just about being interested in the fact that there seem to be differences? And if you're going to call me "racist" for saying there are differences: If there aren't really any, why do guys of West African descent break 10 no matter where in the world they end up being born, living, and training, and why do some of them break it more than 20 times apiece (Greene 31 times, Fredericks 26, Boldon 22, etc.) while up to now no non-West African-descent black guy or Asian guy or white guy, no Hispanic, Samoan, Indian, Moroccan, ad infinitum, had EVER broken 10? And also: Isn't it obvious that the other groups aren't going to catch up? This kid isn't going to run 9.75, and the next world championship 100m final is going to have eight guys of West African descent in it unless some fluky thing happens like Mennea (huge altitude+barely legal wind aid).
It's an unusual accomplishment, like many others that people make a fuss about. Some of them are breakthroughs by members of the various races or sub-groups of races. Lawrence Johnson, Jeremy Wariner, Jonathan Edwards--unusual, therefore interesting. If a black guy throws 290 feet in the javelin, same thing. And if a white guy breaks 10 in the 100--something that's been shown to be very hard to do--even bigger thing.

I beg to differ....

6 years ago 08/02/2017 2:38am EDT

re: Silvio Leonard

What does it matter who ran a sub 10 when Mennea had already ran a 19.72 which LeMaitre will never get near

6 years ago 08/03/2017 11:56am EDT

re: Bad Wigins

VIPAM all athletes you mentioned are most likly dopers just as Tyson Gay for example, you rasist motherf****r, just like all other African distance runners and american black sprinters.

Fu*k you and fu*k all black cheaters who destroyed the sport of athletics with Italian bas'ards as coaches, managers and doctors.

6 years ago 08/03/2017 12:42pm EDT

re: Bad Wigins

Mennea did that in Mexico City and ran on the lines. LeMaitre's best 200m was better, with +0.8 at sea level, no lines, and just .08s back.

Double the 100s and add the 200s, who wins? Mennea at 39.74, all at altitude, LeMaitre at 39.64 at sea level.

100 Metres . 9.92 2011 (9.97 in 2010)

200 Metres 19.80 +0.8 Daegu (DS) 03 SEP 2011

He's still just 27. Surprising that he made such a swift climb and then has not been able to touch those times from when he was 21. He hasn't broken 10 since 2011 and he hasn't broken 20 since 2012.

Mennea:

PERFORMANCE WIND PLACE DATE

400 Metres 45.87 Formia 15 MAY 1977

6 years ago 08/03/2017 1:54pm EDT

re: Silvio Leonard

Silvio Leonard wrote:
Ghost of Pietro wrote:
Black guys of West African descent all over the world (thanks to slavery) had broken 10.00 but no white guy ever had. Now one white guy squeaks under. That's noteworthy because clearly it's HARDER for a white guy to do it. Franklin Jacobs or Stefan Holm highjumping 7'8" is more impressive than Javier Sotomayor or Patrick Sjoberg doing it because there's about a foot more of an obstacle to be overcome. Same with the interest in Solinsky's 10K; I'd say it's as much because he's about 25 pounds heavier than anyone else who's gone under 27 as it is because he's white. People love unusual performances of any kind. LeMaitre (the Master!) ran 9.98 EVEN THOUGH he's white. He overcame an obstacle that guys like Greene and Gay and Powell and Bolt don't have in their way. Hasn't everyone here thought it's weird that a huge number of black guys have broken 10 and no white guy ever had? And it's not just "black guys" --it's West African-descent black guys. No Kenyan or Ethiopian or Eritrean or Somalian black guy has broken 10, either! I'd be interested in LeMaitre's 9.98 did no matter what color I was, just like I'd be interested if a black woman won the Olympic vault, an Asian guy won a big 1500, or an Ethiopian broke 10 in the 100 meters, and like probably most of us were when Liu Xiang broke the 110m hurdles record (a much bigger deal than LeMaitre). Why does it have to be about PREFERRING a race and not just about being interested in the fact that there seem to be differences? And if you're going to call me "racist" for saying there are differences: If there aren't really any, why do guys of West African descent break 10 no matter where in the world they end up being born, living, and training, and why do some of them break it more than 20 times apiece (Greene 31 times, Fredericks 26, Boldon 22, etc.) while up to now no non-West African-descent black guy or Asian guy or white guy, no Hispanic, Samoan, Indian, Moroccan, ad infinitum, had EVER broken 10? And also: Isn't it obvious that the other groups aren't going to catch up? This kid isn't going to run 9.75, and the next world championship 100m final is going to have eight guys of West African descent in it unless some fluky thing happens like Mennea (huge altitude+barely legal wind aid).
It's an unusual accomplishment, like many others that people make a fuss about. Some of them are breakthroughs by members of the various races or sub-groups of races. Lawrence Johnson, Jeremy Wariner, Jonathan Edwards--unusual, therefore interesting. If a black guy throws 290 feet in the javelin, same thing. And if a white guy breaks 10 in the 100--something that's been shown to be very hard to do--even bigger thing.
I beg to differ....

then you are an idiot. All humans are not made equally

6 years ago 08/03/2017 2:44pm EDT

re: Really hjghfhjfv

Really hjghfhjfv wrote:
Silvio Leonard wrote:
I beg to differ....
then you are an idiot. All humans are not made equally

you would be an even bigger idiot if you thought all of the sub 10 black times were not run with major PED usage, and also, and maybe more importantly that you thought talented whites come even close to the number of blacks entering 100 meter sprinting.

6 years ago 08/03/2017 5:45pm EDT

re: Really hjghfhjfv

Really hjghfhjfv wrote:
Silvio Leonard wrote:
I beg to differ....
then you are an idiot. All humans are not made equally

https://supercuba.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/una-carrera-con-silvio-leonard/una/

I am African too....

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