LAGAT 12:53!

From the earlier thread on Ostrava results -

epopians

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Just watched the 3000m about half an hour ago on Eurosport 2. Everything seemed tailor made for Lagat to kick past the 2 kenyans on the home straight after pretty good, economical pacing, but he had nothing left. Ran 7:33 and about 58-59 for the last 400m. Haven't looked at the precise splits on the video yet.

I think age is finally catching up with him, though it's still early season.

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http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3555836

Wonder what "epopians" has to say now? Probably posting under a different name and saying nothing about Lagat's age "catching up with him"

Don't be surprised. Why shouldn't he run that fast with the appropriate training and background.

Remember Oslo '81. Dave Moorcroft ran 13.00.42 on his own. It can be done legit. Or even lagat!!

hope to anyone over 30 years old, AND anyone over 160 lbs. The paradigms are crumbling.

They should. The worst thing Americans can do to themselves is set limits on their potential. Most elite runners never discover their potential.

I think the idea that there is a 'prime' period where someone will set all of their PBs, or would have set their hypothetical best PB possible, is a false notion. I think there is a window of time (perhaps as long as 18 years) in which someone may reach their "full potential." Having a good few months of training, some good rest, the right race conditions, and most importantly the fire in your gut to actually race on that day, can result in a PB at any time during the window. Assuming of course that the aerobic base is there. I think sometimes people don't live up to their "potential" early in their racing career because they believe they are in their prime and subconsciously expect racing to be easy. Then later in their career they don't expect to be as good and so in a race they are truly willing to push beyond themselves and they have "the race of their lives."

That is NOT how most of us feel

Look Mom and Dad using drugs work = LAGAT 12:53

jfjfjkdkdkd wrote:

Why does no one say anything about people juicing when African runners continually break 13 minutes for the 5k? Just appreciate the time!

because africans are genetically superior to european whites for distance running purposes. it ain't culture, guys. in fact, the high tech approach to training that's going on in OR now has pulled the whiteys up a bit.

IspeakLB wrote:

Look Mom and Dad using drugs work = LAGAT 12:53

What ? My congrats to Lydiard. The main reason for this huge results is the Lydiard influence.

We did debate here many times. Lagat, Ritz, Solinsky, Merga, K. Bekele they are all on the Lydiard track.

HRE you were right. My congrats.

2012 Oly. Trials 5k will be nuts. if these guys race it, Lagat, Solinsky, Ritz, Teg, Rupp, Jager, Derrick and/or whoever else, there may not be a clear cut winner/qualifier. Proud day for American distance.

Won't lie, still kind of bummed that Ritz isn't the record holder anymore, but i'm glad it was Lagat who got it.

Of course I'm happy about the performance of Shaheen. I already explained now he's fit again, and the main problem was the motivation. The plan was to rebuild a good aerobic level, after 2 years of poor or no training (he had a surgery in his right knee on 18 Jan 2008). Now, his shape is about 80%, he has still to start his training for specific speed endurance. The real goal is to run about 12'55" during the season, coming back on steeple under 8'.

I'm very happy for Imane Merga, too. He's the only Ethiopian I advise in his training, because is the only one speaking a good English, and, without communicating, it's not possible to coach anybody....

This guy already won last year the IAAF final. He has the motivation for looking for a medal in Olympic, and is in a growing phase of his career. He's very serious, also if, like the most part of Ethiopian runners, wants to compete too much (he wanted to run 3000m in Hengelo, and I had to stop this idea, in order to have a period of 2 full weeks of training after Doha, for running both Oslo and Roma, next Thursday). I think that he can become one of the best 3 specialists of the distance, also if, looking at the next WCh, we have still to decide if is better looking for 5000 or for 10000 (he already was 4th last year in Berlin on the longest distance).

RuKiddingMe! wrote:

how most of us feel...screw that Transplant!..great job Chris!

screw you! That is not how most of us feel.

Great job Chris AND Lagat!

Mr Canova,

Will you describe and explain the periodizations of Shaheen's comeback?

12:54 great result ... lagat was tossed aside be 2 ethiopians tough...

t bekele and Merga look like they are in good shape.

I am surprised that 12:54 was not pasted in 72 point font on the front page... but then again. wejo's are redneck$.

Probably because running since you were 8 at altitude barefoot makes a hell of a difference than running since you were 14 with shoes at sea-level.

Maniagjhsfkasdf wrote:

I am surprised that 12:54 was not pasted in 72 point font on the front page... but then again. wejo's are redneck$.

I don't think it's that. The results that they post huge are the ones that shock us. Ritz, Meb, Solinsky, those were shocking performances. Going into this race I think most people thought as long as the pace was good we would see the AR fall or they would get damn close to it. Not much surprise.

Actually I agree with you on that one. Where is the 72 point font? Its about half the size it was with Ritz and there wasn't an introductory page where you had to click on his time just to get to Letsrun's mainpage. What is up with that?

This is huge. 72 font size worthy.

Maniagjhsfkasdf wrote:

I am surprised that 12:54 was not pasted in 72 point font on the front page... but then again. wejo's are redneck$.

Probably because it wasn't as big of a surprise as when Ritz or Solinski broke the ARs in the 5k and 10k, respectively, out of no where. It was somewhat expected that there would be some hot times and more than likely an AR today. That said, I still think it deserves the homepage for a day or two!

Nice job Lagat and Solinski!!

Agejustanumber wrote:

Actually I agree with you on that one. Where is the 72 point font? Its about half the size it was with Ritz and there wasn't an introductory page where you had to click on his time just to get to Letsrun's mainpage. What is up with that?

This is huge. 72 font size worthy.

no it is not huge. the record stood for how long? that is why it was news when Ritz did it. most, including myself, have been waiting/expecting Legat to break the record.

big news for sure but expected in my mind, however small it may be :)