Chiropractic 'science' is dead

What do you mean by that? He has an undergrad degree in chemistry? He isn't a chemist. He is a chiropractor.

What do you mean by that? He has an undergrad degree in chemistry? He isn't a chemist. He is a chiropractor.

All the complaints here could be equally valid about MD's or dentists. Nobody cures 100 percent of their patients, the root causes of health problems are not always diagnosed. There are also doctors who pump antibiotics and big pharma drugs into patients and hope for the best.

Chiropractors are a legitimate piece of the overall medical field. They can't solve everything, but neither can any other component of the medical field.

I just have to totally disagree with anyone saying that it doesn't help.. i worked out this morning and after my back felt terrible, it hurt when i would take deep breathes and even when i would move around while laying down.. i just got back from my weekly PT which does chiropractic/ART and i feel so much better after getting my back adjusted, no pain at all & i didnt mention my back hurting, i only got my legs worked on during ART.

the average person for sure does not need it. most people would benefit massively more by seeing a massage therapist instead.

yeah but can we predict his 5K time without subluxation

I could agree with this, im not a professional and definitely dont know the science but over the past 10 years when i have been adjusted it seems to help

PT weighing in here,

What this man said is true. Don't know why he's getting downvoted, lol.

I have been to several massage therapists and chiropractors in my life. None of them ever said they could cure cancer or whatever folks claim chiropractors say. They realigned my joints and relaxed my muscles and promoted healing and got me back to working out. EVERY (and I am not exaggerating here) orthopaedic specialist (MD) I have gone to in my life has made my condition WORSE. The details are too gory. I stopped going to them years ago. And yes, there are good and bad massage therapists and chiropractors and MDs. Do your research. If you break a bone, go to an MD. If you want general maintenance to keep you on the road or in the pool or lifting weights - go to massage therapists or chiropractors.

agreed. The issue is it’s hard to run placebo based Rcts on certain surgeries.
In terms of chiros, I don’t really trust any profession that needs to market themselves as ‘doctors’ (let’s leave that term for MDs only) to get patients to see/believe them.

This is exactly right.

A good chiropractor is an athletic type who focuses on musculoskeletal issues, primarily the back.

Most chiropractors are like this, in fact.

They get a bad rap because of the weird outliers but most are good people who are quick to refer stuff out that's over their heads.

Chiropractic science was never alive.

Chiropractic is as effective as the jab. As safe as well

arch jelley john walkers coach sent athletes to a chiropractor, and podiatrist

as a junior, i had a knee injury, shorter leg than the other, and messed up the back.

the chiropractor / podiatrist fixed my injuries for life.

except every 2-5 years there would be pain, and the chiro pops the vertebrate back in place.

check out the top pros that use chiropractors in mma, football etc.

and avoid the average MD, who generally know next to nothing, no functional info.

There are lots on YouTube and post big back cracks.

It seems like people there have their own schtick. Yanking your neck with a towel, yanking it aggressively with a velcro device, using a huge railroad spike and hammering it on your sore points. It's all theatre. And they're always adjusting young women wearing leotards.

It can't be real if they need soo many stage props.

Some people believe the placebo effect isn't real.

But that's just their imagination.

Arguments about chiro are so boring. There's a reason it was always known as the ultimate hit n miss treatment. The facts:

- No true scientific basis, but it definitely works for some situations.

- When it works, no one really knows why.

- Scientists hate it, because it eludes rigorous academic study. That's because, despite the chiro industries claims to standardisation of treatment, every practitioner does things slightly differently. It's basically a scattershot approach. Stop when something works.

- As with many things, it is wildly oversold as a cure for an array of maladies.

You can't "adjust" a spine. The vertebrae in the spine are held together by a lot of very strong connective tissue, just look at the cadavers' spine and you will see what I mean. They call it adjustments for historical reason (bs subluxation theory) and because it sounds cool, but what they are doing is simply "joint play" - they force the joint to move very fast but within a very short range of motion. This triggers a reflex in surrounding muscles, relaxing them and improving range of motion in the joint. This can obviously be very beneficial. This can also potentially do harm when these muscle spasms were just protecting the joint that was somehow compromised. That's it. No magic.