cleanrunr wrote:
who has the fastest "clean" mile time?
Steve Scott
cleanrunr wrote:
who has the fastest "clean" mile time?
Steve Scott
YOUTH BOY WONDER GERMAN FERNANDEZ HAS SOMETHING TO SAY WHEN HE BREAKS THAT MILE WR
HE'S GOING SUB 3:50 THIS YEAR, AND IN TWO YEARS WILL BE THE FIRST HUMAN UNDER 3:40
So El G, Ngeny, Morceli, Cram, Komen, Niyongabo, Aouita, Lagat, Coe and Rotich were ALL dirty? I have a hard time believing that, especially Cram.
Morceli-possibly clean
El G-maybe clean, he was Moroccan+dirty training partners
Aouita-advocated drug use later as a coach
Coe-Blood disorders? cmon. book also advocated EPO usage
Lagat-false positive-suure
Ngeny-Car accident coverup
Rotich, Niyongabo-possibly clean-not much info
Komen-doubtful he drank that much coffee.
Cram-probably clean
So there is doubt about many of them but I doubt all of them were dirty.
No one has as many sub 3.30 and 3.50 clockings as ELG.
This was a fluctuation.
the mile is becoming a rarely run event as they usually run the 1500 in big meets now.
how about john smith's 440 yard mark? that should last a long time as no meets run the 440 yards run, as it has been replaced by the 400 meter run.
same thing.
Paolo Knows wrote
"Jamaica: world capital of genetic engineering"
Paolo, I don't know if you were trying to be facetious or not, but if you know your history, Jamaica is one of the hotbeds of genetic engineering (not in the laboratory sense, but in a manner of speaking).
Jamaica served as the primary port during the slave trade. Slaves with outstanding physical attributes were bred together in the hopes of creating strong workers for farming, the timber industry and other industries involving manual labor. As a result of this "engineering", some of the most gifted strength and speed athletes were indirectly created. That is why descendents of slaves tend to dominate sprinting, the NFL, and most professional sporting events involving speed and strength. It is also why Jamaicans have a disproportionately large share of gold medals at international sprinting events relative to their size. It's a small payback for years of exploitation.
Well, there are a lot of "yards" records that will likely never be broken because the events aren't run anymore. O.J. Simpson will be one of the 4x110-yard relay world recordholders (the USC team) for all of eternity.
El G-maybe clean, he was Moroccan+dirty training partners
Aouita-advocated drug use later as a coach (what did he use there was nothing to take)
Coe-Blood disorders? cmon. S only he had blood disorders - you can't catch toxo from your own naffing blood!!! 'book also advocated EPO usage' where???
Lagat-false positive-suure - maybe
Ngeny-Car accident coverup - get back behing the Grassy knol!
Rotich, Niyongabo-possibly clean-not much info (nothing)
Komen-doubtful he drank that much coffee. (now legal - give all the athletes 50 pro plus they won't touch his records
Cram-probably clean. On what evidence - no more evidence that he is clean than the rest of them! and no more evidence he is guilty either
So there is doubt about many of them but I doubt all of them were dirty.[/quote]
Just because historically the might of the USA T & F team, namely sprinters, was based on steroids- does not mean this applies to other distances & countries. Look at the records on sprinting - half of them were caught and the most of the rest were at it. Did the tests only work on sprinters? Did any of those middle distance runners fail a test. No, then how come half your and our (UK) mother naffing spinters got busted. Because they were naffing well cheating and largely male the middle distance runners were not.
All the records will go
simple answer wrote:
So El G, Ngeny, Morceli, Cram, Komen, Niyongabo, Aouita, Lagat, Coe and Rotich were ALL dirty? I have a hard time believing that, especially Cram.
Morceli-possibly clean
El G-maybe clean, he was Moroccan+dirty training partners
Aouita-advocated drug use later as a coach
Coe-Blood disorders? cmon. book also advocated EPO usage
Lagat-false positive-suure
Ngeny-Car accident coverup
Rotich, Niyongabo-possibly clean-not much info
Komen-doubtful he drank that much coffee.
Cram-probably clean
So there is doubt about many of them but I doubt all of them were dirty.
You don't allow 2 years to be decimated by a blood virus if you've been blood doping. If Coe was, his "doctors" would have picked it up earlier. And in any case, if he were blood doping he'd only be using his own blood, so the virus would still have to get into his body in the first place! The NHS never picked it up and it was only when a close friend recommended a specialist that it was correctly diagnosed.
As for EPO, it didn't even exist as a PED during Coe's career (not until c. 1993), so that comment about him advocating EPO usage is a load of crap.