I thought it was very inspirational, especially the part about the blind girl. Gave great insight to what it must be like to be a pro runner and the overall mentality. Very motivating, although don't think it was produced as well as the first one.
What does everyone else think?
I am a fan, but have to agree that it was not as good as the first one. Specifically lacking was any footage of his olympic steeple chase, and if he couldn't get the footage at least describe what he did and how it turned out. Missing also was his diet change, like did he cut out the ice cream, give us a sample diet, something we can sink our teeth into.Why aren't you running like hell anymore and why reckless?
Just a few suggestions.
Still we love you!
I really don't see how anyone could have enjoyed Run Like Hell as a film.... It was just horrible. I tried watching it with my teammates but we couldn't get through the first fifteen minutes. I saw it in its entirety and it was nothing more than a middle schooler video project.
Stanley Accrington wrote:
I really don't see how anyone could have enjoyed Run Like Hell as a film.... It was just horrible. I tried watching it with my teammates but we couldn't get through the first fifteen minutes. I saw it in its entirety and it was nothing more than a middle schooler video project.
thats because you are so hip and unique. no one would expect someone of your original qualities and utmost intelligence to enjoy a movie of that caliber.
now, tighten your scarf, keep pretending to enjoy classical music, and start thinking about where you want to study abroad next summer.
I think a pretentious hipster would actually enjoy a low budget, semi-underground independent film more. Face it, Run Like Hell was basically a poorly made vanity project. It doesn't take a film buff to say it was crappy.
Look sometimes you have to be like a gold miner, you have to sift through a lot of sh** to find the nuggets.
Both dvd's have nuggets, you just have to sit through the poor sound,poor filming, and keep hungry you'll find nourishment.
Or you can be a self righteous little a** Ho** and focus on the "brown" myself I prefer to focus on the gold!
No one can argue that Fam has accomplished much, even though unorthodox at times, perhaps now with renewed diet, and focus he will reach new greater goals!
i met Fam at The BIX 7 this year.he is one heck'uva nice guy.I hope him all the best with his running.
You all will see if you meet him,he's down to earth,more than i was expecting !!
Louie Tieman
"THE RUNNING COLLECTOR".
Speaking of Fam, what's everyone think about his move to the marathon?
He probably has as much, if not more, range than any U.S. distance runner right now. Hard to believe he's out of the steeple for 2011 and 2012 - seems like he could make those US teams fairly easily, but the marathon is a huge risk for him.
Anywhere I can buy Run Like Hell and Run Reckless outside the US?
The website only ships to the US and I cant find run like hell anywhere on the internet even.
kinda but really not smart wrote:
Speaking of Fam, what's everyone think about his move to the marathon?
He probably has as much, if not more, range than any U.S. distance runner right now. Hard to believe he's out of the steeple for 2011 and 2012 - seems like he could make those US teams fairly easily, but the marathon is a huge risk for him.
He's probably tired of wiping everyone in the US (like at the OTs) but getting wiped by the rest of the world.
Stanley Accrington wrote:
I really don't see how anyone could have enjoyed Run Like Hell as a film.... It was just horrible. I tried watching it with my teammates but we couldn't get through the first fifteen minutes. I saw it in its entirety and it was nothing more than a middle schooler video project.
Ah...a genuine film elitist has spoken!
It's a good thing you didn't keep watching the "film" (movie snobs never use the word, "movie"...too sophomorish. Just "film" and if you're lucky, "screenplay") You and your boring teammates would have clearly missed the entire point of Fam's project: motivating the younger generation and exposing this "running thing" that we have going.
I've shown RLH to the high school xc/track kids that I coach and they love it. For many, it's their first introduction to any type of running beyond the high school level. They learn who Lagat, Abdi, etc are. Find out that there is such a race as the 3000m Steeple...really, there are a couple of kids that quote the movie all of the time- one's a former basketball junkie who's now walking on at a DI school for xc/track.
It always confuses me, though...so much complaining about the low levels of interest in T&F among HS kids, etc... but then when something like this comes out, it just gets criticized by geeks like you. Shazzam!
You could mail your payment to me along with shipping and I would be glad to mail the dvd's to you! Let me know if your interested and we'll get it done.
I do not understand why so many runner type folk like to take shots at Fam. He's out front running hard up front in any event he shows up for. He will be a legend for this era - and a bright spot in U.S. running not associated to any specific group initiative. With %48 disappearing from the financial markets the last 18 - 24 months give him some credit for being innovative in his product offering and not going overboard with a B.S. sell pitch. Take it or leave it. "Run Like Hell"
Stanley Accrington wrote:
I really don't see how anyone could have enjoyed Run Like Hell as a film.... It was just horrible. I tried watching it with my teammates but we couldn't get through the first fifteen minutes. I saw it in its entirety and it was nothing more than a middle schooler video project.
Why should we have to be the gold miner? Isn't that what the filmmaker (moviemaker, for you non-snobs, right?) and/or editor is supposed to do? Sift out the gold nuggets so the viewer doesn't have to?
In a word, Yes. One of the reasons track/running gets such a consistently crappy creative/technical treatment is that so many of us are satisfied with the table scraps we get and, when someone says that he wants something better from the sport, we turn around and bash those critics for being ungrateful. Demand better, guys.
JRunnerJ:
I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you are, more or less, why running in general gets a bad review. You're a Debbie Downwer and people in general aren't attracted to your type...then, Shazzam! they find out you're a "runner" and you make us all look like idiots, thanks.
What I don't think you realize is that you are criticizing someone that is ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING for the sport and that, JRunnerJ, is pitiful.
But, I guess the alternative is having nothing at all in terms of track and field/distance running promotion. Is that what you're looking for?
I'm sure you're one of those bashing runnerspace, flotrack, letsrun's front page for being "unprofessional".
Finally, instead of "demanding better", how about "doing better"? Try it sometime.
RUNit. wrote:
...you are, more or less, why running in general gets a bad review. You're a Debbie Downwer and people in general aren't attracted to your type...then, Shazzam! they find out you're a "runner" and you make us all look like idiots, thanks.
What I don't think you realize is that you are criticizing someone that is ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING for the sport and that, JRunnerJ, is pitiful.
But, I guess the alternative is having nothing at all in terms of track and field/distance running promotion. Is that what you're looking for?
I'm sure you're one of those bashing runnerspace, flotrack, letsrun's front page for being "unprofessional".
Where to begin? First, to borrow your phrasing, what I don't think YOU realize is that I was actually criticizing people (like you) who scold those running fans who are critical of the media we are given. The "be glad you are getting anything at all!" mentality that you perpetuate is garbage and that is a major reason our sport does not get the respect, coverage or exposure from the mainstream media that I believe it deserves.
How do I know? Because in 2007 I was advocating to get a story on the Men's Olympic Marathon Trials in a mainstream media outlet, and was roundly derided by my superiors for suggesting it. (Trust that this is maybe Exhibit F or G of me "ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING for the sport." And here I thought I actually wanted "nothing at all in terms of distance running promotion"... silly me!) Now, why a TV exec will pursue THIS story instead of THAT story is a complicated issue, but in this case, it boils down to sports media-types being (largely) risk-averse. Without a critical mass of potential audience members clamoring for coverage of big-time running OR a road-map of extant media showing the mainstream exciting AND professionally well-conceived ways to present our sport, we will continue to exist in our own private little bubble in non-Olympic years. And -- newsflash -- we will never gain a critical mass so long as we (read: you) continue to badger people (eg. saying "bashing" when the accurate word is "criticizing" or "pointing out") into being satisfied with a professionally-sub-par status quo, because our niche outlets will not be pushed by their audience to improve their production methods.
To wit: I realize that by being less-than-precise in my original post I inadvertently was more critical of Fam's creative efforts than I intended. Having seen "Run Like Hell" I have much praise for Fam's efforts to promote and expose the sport. He is really working to create the excitement that is needed to attract new fans and catch the attention of mainstream media. Unfortunately, the production methods in RLH have evidently made it unwatchable to at least one running fan on the board. If that's the case, how can we hope to entice the would-be running fan to invest his time, interest and energy into following our sport through such avenues?
POST-SCRIPT: I would like to point out that I managed to express myself and my viewpoint without directing attacks at you... despite you making wildly off-base accusations about my ("lack") of effort to better our sport. I would humbly suggest you try doing the same in your future posting, lest you accidentally "make [yourself] look like an idiot" (and without any help from this Debbie Downwer(sic)!) once more.
Post of the Day. Week. Yea...
...ok, week.
that said, i'll see fam in person today to watch his movie, and i'll enjoy it. but the lift i get is likely to be tempered by both a negative review from a person who's already seen it, and the fact that our sport does not enjoy the benefit of truly professional media experts who might make the general public at-large be better able to understand our sport.
to anyone who says that the general public has no business being involved in our sport: f*** you, and get out.
People never cease to amaze me. One minute they gripe and bitch that nobody cares about the sport, and then the next when someone tries for publicity its an awful movie.
This is exactly what the public needs, theres no reason why anybody can't watch this film, although it is geared toward serious runners.
At least they're getting out there and running, but if they weren't you'd critize them for being lazy too... such is the letsrun, superelitist attitude.
JRunnerJ:
Agree to disagree. Sorry for being mean.
he's moving up to the marathon??