California State Meet results and updates here.

Wow. Sucks to go home saying "Yeah I ran 9:19 and finished 23rd at the state meet..."

I would guess that time would win at least 40 of the 50 states.

Or even better 9:07 and finished 19th... damn. That time wins almost every state meet most years

9:07 might win half the states, but you gotta take into consideration California's year round perfect 70 degree weather, something states like New York (freezing in winter) and Florida (hot in summer) dont get. Thats why they are faster.[quote]easy son wrote:

Also you'd need to run the time IN those state meets.

When I ran the Kansas state meet, it was 99 degrees and high humidity.

Tell the 8:57 kid from Barstow that the weather there is perfect year round, I'm sure he'd disagree. Unless you like running in 115 degrees all summer long...

To back up what the above poster mentioned I would also like to add that typically the Fresno/Clovis area is over 100 degrees by this time of the year. I grew up there and running was miserable from May until about October unless you ran early in the morning. California's "perfect" weather only exists in certain coastal regions but remember its a very large state.

Old Runner wrote:

your chosen name for yourself says it best. Thanks for YOUR contribution.

Jordan deserves credit for making an attempt. No guts no glory

foolish was right. going out in 67 and 2:21 isn't guts, it is stupid. do you think komen went out in 53 when he broke 8 minutes for 2 miles?

Hasay is the only 4x 2 mile/3200 Cal State champ. I'm thinking the win was more important than the time.

dwigt schrude wrote:

Old Runner wrote:

your chosen name for yourself says it best. Thanks for YOUR contribution.

Jordan deserves credit for making an attempt. No guts no glory

foolish was right. going out in 67 and 2:21 isn't guts, it is stupid. do you think komen went out in 53 when he broke 8 minutes for 2 miles?

Get over yourself dwork. Race jitters happen. Fast first laps are the result. You probably always went out on target pace when you ran right. Had Jordan run 5 seconds slower on her first lap she still wouldn't have broken the record. She wasn't going to do it today because neither her fitness nor her competition was there. This wasn't her year! At least she made an effort but she couldn't pull it off. That wasn't because of a fast first lap however.

Calling Jordan foolish is really stupid.

That's the first time I've seen a rooter bus at a track and field meet (for Hasay)... the crowd was easily the loudest during the girls 3200

Hasay is burned out and washed up... it's over. She will never get faster.

Imagine you are the #3 3200 runner in the country and have run under 9 minutes more times in one season than anyone since Eric HulstImagine you go into your state meet with the #1 seed.Now imagine that you hit the 1600, in the lead, in 4:30, on pace for a state crown and your 5th sub 9 of the year.Imagine you accelerate in the second half of the race with a 4:26.Now imagine getting passed by 6 guys in the process.Erik Olson...welcome to the California State Meet.

good post

Truth B Tolled wrote:

You probably always went out on target pace when you ran right.

Not all the time, but 90% of the time I would go out on pace and be back in about last place, it is called self control. The 10% of the time where this wasn't the case, I wasn't going for a record. You can try to sugarcoat it as much as you want, but a national-caliber senior in high school should know better than to go out that fast if she is going for a record.

It's not the 35 million people?

big salmon wrote:

9:07 might win half the states, but you gotta take into consideration California's year round perfect 70 degree weather, something states like New York (freezing in winter) and Florida (hot in summer) dont get. Thats why they are faster.[quote]easy son wrote:

Haha, these boys 3200 results are just insane. Imagine running 9:03 AT THE STATE MEET as a sophomore and getting 12th. Even worse, you are "only" the 3rd sophomore in the race...

I read that Erik Olson had a case of food poisoning and sickness during the week leading to the State Meet. He ran fantastic considering that.

on the runs wrote:

It's not the 35 million people?

big salmon wrote:

9:07 might win half the states, but you gotta take into consideration California's year round perfect 70 degree weather, something states like New York (freezing in winter) and Florida (hot in summer) dont get. Thats why they are faster.[quote]easy son wrote:

It is true that CA enjoys some very significant advantages. It is also true that weather at race time was as perfect as you can get. However, I can remember a few years back when the national lists in T&FN weren't as deep as this one race in this one state meet.

I think the real story is how HS distance running is continuing to rebound from the doldrums of the 90s.

Those 3200 times are insane.

9:15 won the boys state meet in Ohio for Large schools in 2008, and sometimes as slow as 9:20 will win even for the large school category (Ohio classifies the schools by size).