Frank Shorter Training Principle?

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19 years ago 12/07/2004 2:49pm EST

re: trackhead

Thanks Trackhead, good info. I am quite surprised to read that. If you don't mind, ask Renato to confirm that pace on those runs. Wow, that's slow.

But I will say that even if it is true(and let's assume it is), it does appear to be an anomaly: even Renato was recommending that they not go so long(or, I assume, so slow). But it appeared to work for those particular guys, so Renato let them do it. But reading much of the rest of what I have seen him write, I reguarly see him prescribing easy runs for his guys that are 6:00 pace or faster. Again, easy for a 13:00 guy. I just have not him seen him saying that his guys (except the ones you mentioned in those instances) would be told to go run 9:00 miles.

Let me know if you find differently (for the MAJORITY)of his guys.

19 years ago 12/07/2004 2:55pm EST

re: Sir Lance-alot

It all depends on how you want to do the active recovery. Renato said himself how suprised he was by the results.

I know that the bulk of Geb's running is 6-6:15/mi, with his longrun at 5:40/mi and his 15-30km hard runs around 4:40 or so. So running a lot at 6min/mi for him is more than appropriate. It does make me laugh though when I hear guys who aren't under 15min telling me how they did an easy 10 in 60min.

BTW -- one guy posted on here that he had run with the national team for a few weeks in 2001, and that 4mi in 30min was not uncommon when running an easy run with Haile.

18 years ago 02/20/2006 8:46am EST

re: trackhead

anyone had any experience training like frank shorter?

18 years ago 02/20/2006 9:02am EST

re: Olympic Gold

Frank Shorter was amazing.

But what happened after the 76 olympics ? He was only 28/29 years and he more or less disappeared. He never went on to break 2-10 or to be a major factor in any other big races.