anyhows, trying this :
3'27 with
1'44.00 ->~ 48.5, 2'12.9, 4'43.4 , 7'20.5, 12'46.7
1'43.75 ->~ 48.3, 2'12.7, 4'43.7 , 7'21.5, 12'49.6
1'43.50 ->~ 48.0, 2'12.5, 4'43.9 , 7'22.6, 12'52.6
1'43.25 ->~ 47.7, 2'12.3, 4'44.2 , 7'23.6, 12'55.6
1'43.00 ->~ 47.5, 2'12.1, 4'44.5 , 7'24.6, 12'58.6
seeing as he ran 7'25-flat with a last lap of ~ 55s, i'd go for 2nd last line as a start...
Well, I said that *I think* he could have gone under 13 because he never actually did. We're just making predictions here, even if you use some program with complex algorithms to try and compare other times to get a prediction it is still a prediction. And it pretty much means nothing as Morceli has retired and will never race again so the chances of him running 12:55 are most likely zilch.
And I stand by my earlier post: he could probably have gone under 13:00, and close to 12:50. Both of those can be true, it's not like I said he can run 12:45 but not under 12:50.
So no, I won't give a number...what if he leans at the tape or coasts the last 10 meters, what if he has pacing for 2k or 3k or 4k, what if he pulls a muscle in the last 60m and that affects the time by .35 seconds? Maybe he runs 12:48.45 in the ideal race, maybe he runs 12:51.29 but the one thing I am sure about is that it doesn't matter that much.
So yea, you can go and input your data into your stupid little website and then post the results here to the hundredth place like you thought them up, feel good about yourself but in reality they don't mean anything.
That's all I have to say to you on that topic.
Daniel K Komen has ran 3:29 and is a great time trialer...maybe he could break 13:00 and join the club.
thank you
i won't waste my time replying to you in future
i think isaac songok has gone 12:48-50 and 3:30-31
irun wrote:
i think isaac songok has gone 12:48-50 and 3:30-31
Yes, correct on both, and he beat Bekele by at least 2 seconds in a Golden League in 06 I think. Hasn't been in form lately though I think.
ummm wrote:
The only American (at present) that I could envision joining this elite group would be Alan Webb. He certainly has the talent.
HAHA WUT HE SUX
BURNOUT
OVERRATED
CANT GET ANYTHING DONE
PARTIES TOO HARD
SUX MAN
ALAN WEBB IS NEXT!
He will undoubtedly be on this list. sub 3:30 and sub 13:00. Webb will take on the world.
No one's perfect
sagarin wrote:
Mottram's got to be close. He ran 3:48 and change for the full mile.
"the full mile".....versus 1600?
I don't think Mottram (or any other non-US runner w/ a shred of self-respect) would toe the line for anything other than a "full mile".
Christ on a crutch...dyestat is a cancer....
A few other things to consider:
Sub-3:30 by country of birth:
Morroco 3 (including Ramzi)
Algeria 3 (including Baala)
Kenyan 6 (including Lagat)
Burundi 1
Britain 2
South Africa 1 (Maree)
Spain 1
17 Total
Sub-13:00 by country of birth:
Ethiopia 11
Kenya 31 (including Shaheen, Lagat and Maina)
Morroco 8 (including Mourhit and Syghr)
Uganda 2
Algeria 1
Germany 1
Australia 1
United States 1
Saudi Arabia 1
Eritrea 1
58 Total
58 total have gone sub-13:00 and only 17 have gone sub-3:30 but sub-3:30 was done first (1985 vs 1987), although Moorecroft ran 13:00.41 in 1982.
Sub-13:00 list has 31/58 Kenyans but sub-3:30 list has ony 6/17.
Sub-3:30 list has no Ethiopians.
Sub-3:30 list has 3/17 caucasians but sub-13:00 list has only 3/58 (Also interesting, the 3:30-3:30.99 list is nearly 50% caucasians).
this list needs an update
funny, ventolin was already an old grumpy man back in 2008.