the Wind Gauge was broken for the 100- why you ask?

Going to have to disagree. They had wind at thier back from the start.

Notice the start/set. I played it back and notice wind blowing up against the pant leg of the official. Also in lane one the competitors number on his back is blowing up visibly from the wind. Also the first start which was called back, the hip number blew off one of the sprinters and was seen bouncing down the track in front.

yes, but the building behind the start, its less than 20 meters behind the start. Notice how the building ends around the turn, and the all the wind gauges are on the inside of the track, uncovered by the building.

The wind for the actual race was not as high as the wind gauge reading recorded- it was less. In addition, Tyson Gay was infront the whole race, and the tail wind was largely blocked by the other competitors. The same thing happens in a peloton or larger group of races in a distance race- The leader fights the wind and those in the very back of the pack are pushed along and block the wind from those in front.

Tyson Gay's run is much more superior than we are led to believe. Its incredible how fast he ran when you consider these conditions. Remember, Usain Bolt ran with 1.7 wind in NY. Tyson gay is near parity with Usain, if not superior. Usain had not run heats leading up to his 9.72 like he will have to do in Beijing.

He's in his own lane.... how do the other competitors block his tail wind?

So you do realize that wind does not blow in straight lines? That wind will blow around a building, especially one as small as the one in question? Additionally, your cycling analogy is completely off base - eight sprinters on a track in separate lanes does not equate to 50 cyclists in a group, riding a few inches away from each other.

I am having difficulty believe that your posts are serious.

Yeah, because you say so.

I am pretty sure that USATF (and before that, TAC and AAU, and all other foriegn athletic governing bodies) did a couple of studies about wind advantages prior to making the appropriate rules.

Or should we just take your casual observations about "the building behind the start".

Get a clue.

And I saw a second starter in the grassy knoll.

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He's in his own lane.... how do the other competitors block his tail wind?

wind doesn't blow in straight lines. thats how. Also, the wind blowing from behind creates a vortex, as does the wind blowing around the building. So the runners behind Tyson actually blocked his wind. In addition, the movement of the air traveling around the building is going to have a higher pressure as more air must travel trough less area and as it can't travel through the building, thusly travel faster around the edges of the building and towards the infield and track.

Notice this:

provides an appropriate perspective doesn't it? Do you see how wind gauges on the infield just inside of the 100m race could be inaccurate from a tailwind?

Additional supporting evidence to consider:

if you were going to be 100% accurate with a 100meter race you're going to need at least 6 wind gauges. 3 on the outside of Lane 8, and 3 on the inside of lane 1 as close to the track as possible. Two at the start, two at the 50meter, and two at the finish.

Then take the average of all of them for a complete wind reading. The way the wind reading was taken IMO was inaccurate with consideration of the actual design characteristics of Hayward field.

To make Tyson's run seem more superior, you also have to remember he was in front the whole way and thus his tailwind was being blocked by athletes behind him. His performance was incredible in light of these facts.

Who cares anyhow? He ran 9.77 easing up a good deal with a legal win. His start has gotten better, and that 9.77 was the best start I've seen from him. That was his best performance, even if the 9.68 was the coolest. He can run within a couple hundrenths of Bolt on Bolt's best day if not the same time. Neither of them are markedly better than the other, and both have performed well in the clutch unlike 3'rd wheel Powell. The showdown will be intense in Beijing and it will be a hype-fest along with Wariner vs. Merritt.

you need to stop being retarded

gatlin is running much faster than the wind is blowing, in fact doubly fast, therefore the air he is running through has yet to touch the other runners....therefore they have no effect on it and do not "block the tail win".....because at 4.1 its the relative equivalent of running forward at 6 m/s with no wind the wind would need to be blowing at > 10 m/s for there to even be a remote chance of the other runners "breaking the tailwind" also, with the building.....when wind is blowing from one side...there is an eddy created just on one side...but only for a few feet because the air is pulled back down to ground level very quickly to avoid creating a vacuum.....go stand 20m away from a building that would be blocking the wind and see how much good it does...also the wind guage reader should be near the start of the straightaway and would be effected similarly to the runners

huge face off's-

Men's 1500m

Wariner vs Merritt

Tyson vs Bolt

Robles vs Liu

USA 4x1 vs Jamaica 4x1

Clement vs Jackson

man the action is going to be instense!

The funniest laydown I've ever seen.

are you fricken retarded? Gatlin is banned moron.

If Gay wasn't an American, would we be having this stupid discussion?

nope.

At the track I train on there is a large, 3 story building not more than 10 meters from the edge of the track. It does absolutely nothing to block the wind when it's blowing in from that direction. Just my two pennies.

...in a very long time. Are you going to analyze the layout of the surrounding buildings for every major track, as well as how the field spreads out to block the wind in every race, and individualize what an allowable wind reading is? The rules are known, surprise surprise the fastest times come when wind gauges say there is a lot of wind, what is the point of this?

Stupidest thread... wrote:

...in a very long time. Are you going to analyze the layout of the surrounding buildings for every major track, as well as how the field spreads out to block the wind in every race, and individualize what an allowable wind reading is? The rules are known, surprise surprise the fastest times come when wind gauges say there is a lot of wind, what is the point of this?

well first off, lets just say you had someone standing infront of the wind gauge...

anyone remember that case? Yes or No would suffice.

A wind gauge is only as good as the people and place using it. Officials have to follow rules, but obvious conditions 10m away can be markedly different. That said, if the Clemson kid had been put in Lane 1 instead of Lane 8 he would be going in the 100 open. Why you ask?

The wind was pushing the lanes more exposed than those less exposed.

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Pod as far as I\'m concerned.