Indiana Jones 4...I cried real tears

Looked stupid from the moment I saw it was coming out, I will not see this movie. (Loved the other ones)

I generally like Cate Blanchett, but she looks quite miscast in this movie in the trailers.

I have not seen the movie but hope that it has lots of computer generated graphics and possibly a cameo from Jar Jar Binks.

It struck me as a charicature of the first three. Almost like it was trying to make fun of itself without realizing how over the top it was. Like other posters have said, a rather confusingly meaningless opening and ending. Seems like they worked in the conspiracy/government coverup/aliens thing to appeal to the pre-adolescent/adolescent crowd (as well as the casting of LaBouf or whatever his name is) and is really rather incongruent with the usual indy-fare.

A buddy of mine pointed out that all of the previews were kid movies, so we knew what to expect. But the first three were kid movies that could still spark the adults imagination and sense of adventure. This one just took all the fun qualities from the first three and made them into a joke.

The whole greaser v. preppie fight in the diner had me genuinly laughing out loud as it seemed straight out of a choreographed musical or something.

All that said, I guess I still had fun watching it since I more or less knew what to expect. Even if Indy did survive a nuclear blast tucked in a refrigerator hurled thousands of feet into the air.

How could they blow this one? I mean how hard could it be to capitalize on the the success of the first three? 15 years or whatever in the making they should have come up with a real blockbuster.

This is all very disconcerting. I was really looking forward to this movie.

IJ4 meet Rocky V

More like Indy meets ET.

Dumb plot...they should have stuck with real history and avoided the whol alien thing.

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

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Mr. Cranky's rating:

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It's Jar Jar Binks bad.

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If you were a fan of the original "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and recall that horrible sinking feeling you got while watching "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom", then you should prepare yourself to travel back in time to 1985 and feel that vomitous disgust well back up in the pit of your stomach once again. This is the worst of the series by far and it's not just bad, it's embarrassing. Remember, George Lucas wrote the story. It's Jar Jar Binks bad.

Here's how I don't want to remember Indiana Jones: as some old, goofball archaeologist whose last moments in popular culture were standing in the middle of some ruin looking dumbfounded as the alien spaceship from "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" spun around him in preparation for take off. I kid you f***ing not. This movie has more stupid shit in it than the rest of the series put together.

First of all, the thing opens with the shot of a gopher. I thought - and I am not joking here - I thought I was watching the opening to "Caddyshack 3". I mean seriously, what has this series come to if Steven Spielberg and George Lucas have resorted to using CGI gophers in an "Indiana Jones" movie? Then, I don't know, about half way through the movie, Indy (Harrison Ford) finds this crystal skull and suddenly I thought I was watching "Alien". The crystal skull looks exactly like the head of one of those aliens. For holy f***'s sake, can somebody design an alien head that doesn't look exactly like the alien's head from "Alien"? Make the f***ing thing square for all I care, just don't send up a firework that screams "we're too lazy to design an alien head that doesn't look like every other alien head we've ever seen."

And before I continue with my rant, let me just say that I get it. I get that Spielberg and Lucas (but mostly Lucas) want to make a 50's film and that the 50's films from their childhood were really influenced with the whole fascination with men from Mars. I get it. But god damnit, that's a different genre. I think that the original idea for this film - Lucas's script or story or whatever - was titled "Indiana Jones and the Stupid Space Alien" and both Spielberg and Harrison Ford rejected the idea. That's because it's stupid. And I also get the defense that the supernatural has been part of all the other Indiana Jones movies. Obviously, there's the Ark of the Covenant and all that silly hocus pocus, but it just seems totally different when suddenly Indy is looking at large-skulled space creatures and scratching the top of his head. It's just not right.

And is Indy so old that they can't give him a decent villain? I really wanted to watch Indy go out battling some anorexic Russian chick (Cate Blanchett). Then there's the story that's so painfully predictable it wasn't even worth telling. Mutt Williams (Shia LeBouf) shows up and asks for Indy's help saving his mother who, it turns out, is Marion Ravenwood (Karen Allen). And of course, Mutt is Indy's son. It's such a pathetic story device that Marion reveals it to Indy in the middle of the movie (had she done it at the end it would have been even worse, but still...). Spielberg and Lucas paint themselves into this corner and it's like they just give up. It's depressing because it's so goddamn mediocre. There's nowhere for them to go.

Having just watched "National Treasure 2" I naturally read a few reviews here and there about it, calling it ridiculous and whatnot. I agree. The thing is, this movie is no different from that movie, except that "Indiana Jones" is beloved and "National Treasure" is not. Bottom line is they both suck just the same.

I was expecting it to be pretty bad, but it was enjoyable to watch, even if it was incredibly over the top. The end scene where the doors of the church swing open and the theme music comes on as Indy's hat is blown over to Shia Laboef had me scared. He almost put it on until Indy snatches it out of his hands. Steven Speilberg's cruel joke to make us think a new Indiana Jones series starring, God forbid, Shia Laboef, and then reassure us that he's not that stupid?

I saw Crystal Skull last night, and enjoyed it. It did lack some of the camaraderie and adventure of the first three, but was still a great movie. The action scenes were pretty incredible, especially the extremely long chase/action scene through the jungle. The CGI effects were minimal, as Spielberg wanted to make the movie feel like the other three. Also, yes, the movie had a few outrageous scenes (the vine thing with the monkeys was ridiculous), but didn't all the other movies have their moments as well?

For weeks I was looking foward in seeing this film...then the reviews came and now I've almost lost all of the nostalgic feeling. Some of it is still there, I'm a big fan of the first 3 myself, too. Most likely I'll still go and be "optimistic."

Btw, anyone here get to see "The Visitor" ? If there was a thread on it before, ignore :)

"I saw Indiana 4 last night and let me tell you... I cried real tears."

so i take it you didn't get any....i mean what girl would put out to a pussy who cries about how bad a movie is?

seriously...it's a movie

blahtose wrote:

I saw Crystal Skull last night, and enjoyed it. It did lack some of the camaraderie and adventure of the first three, but was still a great movie. The action scenes were pretty incredible, especially the extremely long chase/action scene through the jungle. The CGI effects were minimal, as Spielberg wanted to make the movie feel like the other three. Also, yes, the movie had a few outrageous scenes (the vine thing with the monkeys was ridiculous), but didn't all the other movies have their moments as well?

I know that this is just your opinion and you're entitled to it....but you're a retard.

any movie with "IV" in the title is fair dreck warning.

Just for your info. The whole Alien, crystal skull, is actually a real theory and strong belief held by some people (not me). Much like the Shankara Stones to some Hindus, and the Arc for most christians/judeans.

wow i just did some reading into the crystal skulls...kind of crazy stuff...

a little better than temple of doom

Yeah, I guess the saving grace is that the temple of doom was so bad that this one is better, and lets hope that they can pull another Last Crusade to make up for this one. There was a lot of entertaining action, and the Skulls story is pretty incredible, I was just watchign a documentary on it.

I really can't see IJ becoming a James Bond kind of thing (a new one every few years), there is only 1 Harrison Ford and I really don't see myself going to the theaters to watch the new kid, no offense to him. Will we have 2-3 more IJ's akin to Star Wars? As far as I'm concerned, Star Wars is dead thanks to the new ones. What's great about Bond is that they can keep making new ones, some are good, some are bad, and its OK.

When will producers learn that computer animation is terrible? The whole jungle swordfight scene is so fake, comon. And the Harley? They bothered to bring it the whole way to Peru and then what happened to it? Whoever said the gopher at the beginning was nuts I couldn't agree more, I thought it was another preview.

While watching it I thought to myself, all the other IJ's have a bit of unbelievability to them, so this is OK, but what sealed the deal of cheesyness was when Indy says at the end "To them the treasure was knowledge..." I couldn't imagine a lamer line. What is this? A public service announcment to stay in school? Its Indiana Jones for heaven's sake.

On the bright side, I thought changing villains to the Ruskies was cool and the 50s era stuff was neat.

Is crystal skull anthing like crystal meth?

Just asking