If I join a year-round local adult running program to boost my mileage, is that a violation of some rule if someone finds out? I just want to run more miles, and they train early in the morning, which doesn't interfere with my hs cross or track training. My coach is not into high mileage, so I am stuck with his training plan. I want to run for my high school, but also don't want to waste the next 2 years when I can build strength for the future. Thanks if you know the answer.
you serious?
no thats not against rules, case in point: jamul toads/ mac fleet.
and it does interfere with your hs cross and track training because you probably would end up with twice the interval sessions per week which will straight up destroy you.
just run double days with your hs coaching during the afternoons.
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you must have missed the part where he says he just wants more mileage.
I don't know who or what jamul toads or mac fleet are. I know Galen Rupp was coached in high school and college by outside coaching, but he is elite. I just want to run more in the morning with a local running store group. They don't run intervals in the mornings, just year round base training and tempo runs. I know I can run on my own, but I would like to get the input of the training group coach and older runners who seem to know more than my high school coaches anyway. I just want to know if there is some state high school association regulation that says you can't be coached by someone else when you are in a season. Any caoches or people who know out there? Thanks.
yeah you can have a private coach and you high school coaches, that is legal. The question is whether or not the HS coaches will kick you off the team because they are on a power trip. My advice would be just to do the base and not the tempos unless its like summer and your HS coaches arent giving you workouts.
hey, what the other guys are saying isn't necessarily true as this is illegal by connecticut rules
check the laws of your states HS governing body to make sure its not illegal as it varies state by state
i was in your same situation in high school. argue to the death with your coaches about training, and then if that doesnt work train on your own and if your fast enough your coaches will let you run.
be careful with this... i started doubling by myself my senior year of high school because i thought my coach wasn't having us run enough miles, too. then i got ITBFS for two years and still can't run for more than a month without it coming back.
Depends on the state. In IL, this would be a violation of IHSA policies.
[quote]uh_no wrote:
hey, what the other guys are saying isn't necessarily true as this is illegal by connecticut rules/quote]
My daughter had a very lame coach (CT). She was being recruited and wanted to improve her times during the indoor track season (normally she trained through indoors). She would go to practice, do the assigned workout and then take the train to workout with another high school (they had late practice because of conflicts with other sports). Sometimes it becomes necessary to go "off the program" if you want to improve.
highschoolquestioner wrote:
If I join a year-round local adult running program to boost my mileage, is that a violation of some rule if someone finds out? I just want to run more miles, and they train early in the morning, which doesn't interfere with my hs cross or track training. My coach is not into high mileage, so I am stuck with his training plan. I want to run for my high school, but also don't want to waste the next 2 years when I can build strength for the future. Thanks if you know the answer.
If all you want is more mileage, then why do you have to join a program? Seems like you could just, I don't know, run more mileage.
I've lived in 3 states in 4 years, and have found that the private coaching rule has been fairly consistent, but you have to be careful if other high school runners from your school or other schools are using the same private coach, especially at the same time, as in a running group. Are there other high school runners who train with the group, or just you?
just do it, no one cares about track or xc - thinking otherwise is merely self delusion.
Didn't it bite the Torreses in the butt in IL? If I recall one or both lost some running time because of an outside coach.
Getting advice from an outside coach is one thing competing for a non school team another I would think. But HS Federations have a history of doing things just to flex their control over the process not because the rule serves any useful purpose. Check with your local federation-- but nobody can censor you for going for an 8K trot in the AM.
be careful about this......overtraining can really cause serious consequences. If you are just working out with the team it should not be an issue, but do not compete with an outside team while you are competing with your high school team. And just because you or your parents do not agree with the high school coach does not mean they are an idiot....and sometimes more is not better. You are just a kid, with a growing changing body...respect that and in the long run you will be a healthier runner.
highschoolquestioner wrote:
If I join a year-round local adult running program to boost my mileage, is that a violation of some rule if someone finds out? I just want to run more miles, and they train early in the morning, which doesn't interfere with my hs cross or track training. My coach is not into high mileage, so I am stuck with his training plan. I want to run for my high school, but also don't want to waste the next 2 years when I can build strength for the future. Thanks if you know the answer.
It's only illegal if the coach massages your testicles.