substitutes for ds trainer xi

I posted this exact question a few months ago, and someone recommended the Adidas Adizero Tempo as a shoe with similar support and feel. I couldn't find them, so I didn't try them and thus don't know how the sizing works.

Good luck!

I've worn the DS Trainers for years. I last wore the XII and thought they were okay (got over 500 miles on each of my 2 pairs). I was given a pair of Mizuno Elixer 2 and loved them (over 450 miles so far). Very similar shoe. I haven't tried the DS Trainer XIII yet (but have a pair, it is a different looking shoe with the off-center lacing) or the Elixer 3 (but I don't think they changed much). I found the sizing from the DS Trainer XII to the Elixer's were the same, but I've gotten a bit of feedback that the Trainer XIII are running a bit short (half size).

Mizuno Wave Elixir. Light, smooth and quick, with nice lift under the arch. They fit a little snugger than other Mizuno's.

New Balance 902 or 903

lts wrote:

I posted this exact question a few months ago, and someone recommended the Adidas Adizero Tempo as a shoe with similar support and feel. I couldn't find them, so I didn't try them and thus don't know how the sizing works.

Thank you for the most useless post of the week.

It has to be the adizero tempo my friend. adidas have been seeding samples to retailers like crazy and it is a sweet fast training shoe. Stable yet light.

Plus what has happened to asics. These new tongue shapes are flippin awful. All they seem to do is create flex pressure and blisters.

Thanks for the information. I'm considering buying the adizero tempos but I'm slightly hesitant just because I've never worn any adidas shoes. do you know what size to get for the tempos if i normally wear 9 in ds trainer 11s and harambees? by the way what do you guys think about the speedstars or nb 902s? I've been wearing asics for a while, so I feel comfortable with their shoes and also I've looked through a bunch of old threads on this topic and quite a few of the suggestions were to get nb 900s or 902s. Thanks.

Just picked up a pair of the DS Trainer 13's. So far, I really like them. They seem to be firm and responsive.

I was running in Landreths 3's and the Hyperspeed 2. Didn't like the Landreth 4's and wanted something w/more cushion than the HS2. Though the DST is not a neutral shoe, it's very close. See the pronation range on the asics website.

They run very small. Get a full size larger than you normally run in. I run in 11.5, needed a 12.5 in the DST.

No experience w/Adidas other than trying on in the store. I try to stick with Asics. I hear Adidas tend to run narrow.

I second the rec on New Balance 902's and now the 903's. These shoes are great.

Saucany Tangents are a great substitute as well. They are a light weight posted shoe, and i like them a lot better than the new ds trainers

I've run in the DS Trainer 10, 11, 12, and 13. I loved the 10 & 11, was "so-so" about the 12, and I like the 13. I find it to have a ride more like the 10 & 11, just pay attention to the small sizing and go up accordingly.

With that said, I also bought a pair of Asics Banditos when I bought the most recent DS Trainers, and I LOVE this new shoe! It's lighter than the DS Trainer, yet seems to have equal support, and it reminds me a lot of the DST 10 (similar colors too). I will absolutely stock up on the Bandito before Asics finds a way to screw this one up. It seems to be (so far) perfect for every day training and longer races (10k & up).

Check out the Bandito!

bulk buyer wrote:

I've run in the DS Trainer 10, 11, 12, and 13. I loved the 10 & 11, was "so-so" about the 12, and I like the 13. I find it to have a ride more like the 10 & 11, just pay attention to the small sizing and go up accordingly.

With that said, I also bought a pair of Asics Banditos when I bought the most recent DS Trainers, and I LOVE this new shoe! It's lighter than the DS Trainer, yet seems to have equal support, and it reminds me a lot of the DST 10 (similar colors too). I will absolutely stock up on the Bandito before Asics finds a way to screw this one up. It seems to be (so far) perfect for every day training and longer races (10k & up).

Check out the Bandito!

i have been in the 10 to the 13. so far i like the 13. i am one of the few who liked the 12.

will check out the bandito. i am very happy with asics products

do you guys know the sizing and what width to get for the nb 902s compared to the ds trainer 11 (I wear a 9)? Eastbay has 3 different sizes for the nb 902s. I'm thinking that medium would be appropriate but I'm not sure how the width is compared to the DST. Also, could you also tell me the sizing on the adizero tempos? thanks

I've run in every DS since the 6's. Just tried out the NB 903's. Light, and more cushion in the forefoot. They're a decent replacement - more of a road shoe though. They seem to be less durable for trail work than the DS's.

The Speedstar IIs are great but discontinued, you should be able to find them online though. 1/2 size smaller than the sizing of the 11xx and 21xx series. The first 2 or 3 runs I feel a strange pressure on the middle of the ball of my foot, but after that it goes away, and I have no other complaints. I just hope they don't screw it up when the IIIs come out, but my friend has been running in the Hyperspeeds so I might try those out if the IIIs suck.