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It was either muhamed or McLovin.
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muhamed
You're slowing down for 3 reasons:
1). You think the altitude makes a difference, so it's affecting you mentally. In reality, the effects of 1800 ft are barely noticable.
2). It's cold as hell up there, and you're from Florida. Duh.
3). There are more hills. Hills slow you down.
The effects of 1800 feet of altitude are negligible. An example of mild altitude making a small difference is a place like Calgary (about 3500 feet). According to Tim Noakes, you can expect to slow down by about 3% running at 3500 feet. That works out to 45 seconds over 10k at world record pace, i.e. Kenenisa Bekele would run 27:02 in a perfectly rabbited race in Calgary.
He makes no mention of running at a more slight altitude. I've run at about 2,200-2,500 feet and never noticed a difference. I didn't even realize I was at that elevation until just now...
You must realize its a big difference I have traveled from TX which is a big change. Just run your best and realize its a change. Just take slow steps toward your goals. You may have to do some extra base training before you start your repeat phase. That is a big jump though.
Joshua Hawkins
Run Faster, New York
Run Faster
Crappy Runner wrote:
Lake Placid NY. Home of the 1980 winter olympics. It's pretty damn hilly.
Great city...I'm up there at a camp for high schoolers at the olympic training center about twice a year. Do you do any runs in Mount Van Hovenberg, Bear Cub Road or John Brown's Farm?
Crappy Runner wrote:
Lake Placid NY. Home of the 1980 winter olympics. It's pretty damn hilly.
I did a half marathon there in September, and I wondered the same thing. I know the altitude didn't have as big of an effect as the heat and hills, but I'm sure my time would have been faster if it was at sea level. Not much faster, but still. Even if it is only 2sec/mile, or somewhere in that range, it can add up. I really doubt it makes a difference in training, but it could be significant over a longer race.
If you're looking for a route - the HM starts and finished at the horse show grounds, adjacent to the airport runway and kitty-corner from the ski jumping complex. You start off by running out of the show grounds and across the street, then up and around John Brown Rd. Hang a left on Old Military Rd (35) and then a right onto Johnson Ave. After a small loop in the neighborhood (dont remember the exact turns), you come out on Church St, and go left on Military, back from the way you came. You run by the entrance to the show grounds, down the hill, past the ski jumps, and make a left along the Ausable on River Rd (21). This is the bulk of the course, a scenic out-and-back that has permanent "Shared Roadway - Athletes Training" roadsigns posted. It is rolling the entire way, but the traffic is limited and it had wide shoulders. We turned around just before the Rte. 86 intersection, and came back, then up the hill and into the showgrounds for the finish. Very nice run. I always wanted to run down main street in the village, but I'm not sure how much traffic/crowds would hinder you.
All other things being equal. There would on average be approx. 2% reduction from sea level to 2000feet, ie a 35 10k runner becomes 35:30-35:40.
A 2% reduction in "power" is not exactly the same as 2% addition in time.