Better than being an illiterate clown. It doesn't matter what anyone else was doing in this case, it only matters what Marion Jones freely, as an adult, chose to do. When somebody feels like catching any and every other cheat that lined up to race Jones then we'll deal with those cheats and their sins. Relativism is bogus, don't tell me you're so dense as to have never heard the old 'if all your friends jumped off a bridge' line.
yourdad wrote:
Mister Olympia EIGHT TIMES wrote:Like me, Ronnie Coleman. I am 100% natural--just like Geb
http://www.ronniecoleman.net/bigbeachsm.jpgThat is the scariest picture I've ever seen.
If that scares you see this...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fiveoclockbot.com/blog/images2/ao5nwm.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fiveoclockbot.com/blog/archives/000666.php&h=1089&w=733&sz=92&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=1DJ3s60QovGtYM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=101&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcarrot%2Btop%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DGroids are everywhere.
Marion jones took drugs from 97-2004. From 97 to 2000 memo heredia was responsible for supplying her and cj along with drug modification schedules. Everone talk about conte but I wouldn't forget memo.
Marion jones took drugs from 97-2004. From 97 to 2000 memo heredia was responsible for supplying her and cj along with drug modification schedules. Everone talk about conte but I wouldn't forget memo.
those pictures made me laugh pretty hard! i hope the juiced carrot top doesnt show up in my nightmares tonight!!
Stop making excuses for her wrote:
I agree with the last 2 posters. What I find amazing is that there are still these bleeding heart liberals on here that defend her. She is a f--king cheater people. A stone cold, lieing CHEATER. Kids looked up to her, coaches defended her, she lied over and over while crying on camera. F--K HER! She will never get what she really deserves.
Hey asswipe, what makes you say that "bleeding heart liberals" will defend her? I'm liberal & I think she should go down in flames.
In my experience it is the no-heart conservatives that are more likely to excuse criminal & immoral behavior, as long as it is one of them and there is money to be made.
flashback wrote:
Hey asswipe, what makes you say that "bleeding heart liberals" will defend her? I'm liberal & I think she should go down in flames.
In my experience it is the no-heart conservatives that are more likely to excuse criminal & immoral behavior, as long as it is one of them and there is money to be made.
that's great. you're so smart. oh wait...we're talking about defending a black woman here, so you're wrong. it is bleeding heart liberals crying for her.
Cirque du Soleil reject wrote:
E degrades quickly over time ... there is usually a backlog of tests ... if A is positive - stall, stall, stall and your chances of getting busted are practically nil.
She was taking E THE WEEK BEFORE MOST MEETS AND SHE NEVER TESTED POSITIVE - WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT DISTANCE RUNNERS?
Wouldn't the E be more likely to stand for epitestosterone, it would explain how she passed the tests?
and exactly how do we know they are clean????????
There are plenty of athletes taking drugs that pass the drug tests, read a F'in book, the tests will never catch up to the drugs, people get caught cuz they are stupid.
Look at the consistency of their performances and look at who they associate with.
This isn't the 1970s, 80s or 90s anymore, or even 2002 when these BALCO assholes were getting away with murder. The Greeks aren't making their usual two out-of-nowhere performances anymore, Graham and Remy are out of the sport and Stambolova and the Bulgarian/Belarussian cheats are getting nailed. This is probably the cleanest our sport has ever been (certainly in the testing era).
Some haven't been hit yet. Ramzi still has his Helsinki golds (what a load of shit that was!) and Nesterenko quickly went back into oblivion. You'll notice that some of Graham's other former runners that never tested positive came back down to Earth after the Gatlin bust and his de facto blacklisting. Expect them to stay there, if they're smart. Unless there's some BALCO-like revelation/scandal, they'll probably keep their stolen hardware, but we can hope that they don't get to collect anymore.
mobile9 wrote:
Look at the consistency of their performances and look at who they associate with.
This isn't the 1970s, 80s or 90s anymore, or even 2002 when these BALCO assholes were getting away with murder. The Greeks aren't making their usual two out-of-nowhere performances anymore, Graham and Remy are out of the sport and Stambolova and the Bulgarian/Belarussian cheats are getting nailed. This is probably the cleanest our sport has ever been (certainly in the testing era).
Some haven't been hit yet. Ramzi still has his Helsinki golds (what a load of shit that was!) and Nesterenko quickly went back into oblivion. You'll notice that some of Graham's other former runners that never tested positive came back down to Earth after the Gatlin bust and his de facto blacklisting. Expect them to stay there, if they're smart. Unless there's some BALCO-like revelation/scandal, they'll probably keep their stolen hardware, but we can hope that they don't get to collect anymore.
We are clean. So very very clean. Happy Merry!
And the Charade goes on. Clemens want to lie on 60 minutes. Armstrong was caught several times but UCI let him slide. Who knows if Kimani and Shay died from doping. There's no tests that can catch these cheats.
Charade wrote:
And the Charade goes on. Clemens want to lie on 60 minutes. Armstrong was caught several times but UCI let him slide. Who knows if Kimani and Shay died from doping. There's no tests that can catch these cheats.
Nobody can test up for the HGH we of course never took. They cannot test us for the RepOxygen we never took, or the low-dose test we never took, or the insulin we never took, and when an EPO test was developed, that was so easy to beat by using smaller doses (not that we ever used it). And then of course they could not test us for the other untestable designer drugs we of course never took.
Geb and El G wrote:
Nobody can test up for the HGH we of course never took. They cannot test us for the RepOxygen we never took, or the low-dose test we never took, or the insulin we never took, and when an EPO test was developed, that was so easy to beat by using smaller doses (not that we ever used it). And then of course they could not test us for the other untestable designer drugs we of course never took.
Don't forget the blood doping we never used.
Just because you would have no problem cheating and taking drugs doesn't mean that your low standards apply to all professional athletes.
I don't know much about El G (Morocco has had its fair share of cheaters), but I have no doubt that Geb is 100% clean. Like I said earlier, go to Arsi and see the talent that's out there.
Another fact that's been mentioned before: the late Mike Long of Elite Racing detested cheaters so much that he physically removed that Moroccan doper from the Philadelphia Half last year when she tried to enter on her own. He wanted no association with dopers. And when he died suddenly last summer, who was front and center in a tribute photo taken in Addis Ababa? His friend, Haile Gebrselassie. Please explain how you would know better than he as to who is guilty and who is not.
From the LetsDope.com site that I frequent, E always refers to EPO.
memo heredia was the doping king for 10 years! supplied and designed different drugs for almost every track camp in America. Untouched by federal agencies, why?
I hear I can get any drug from a certain provider in Canada shipped to me.. they should bust that place!! the 2nd Balco?
mobile9 wrote:
Look at the consistency of their performances and look at who they associate with.
This isn't the 1970s, 80s or 90s anymore, or even 2002 when these BALCO assholes were getting away with murder. The Greeks aren't making their usual two out-of-nowhere performances anymore, Graham and Remy are out of the sport and Stambolova and the Bulgarian/Belarussian cheats are getting nailed. This is probably the cleanest our sport has ever been (certainly in the testing era).
Some haven't been hit yet. Ramzi still has his Helsinki golds (what a load of shit that was!) and Nesterenko quickly went back into oblivion. You'll notice that some of Graham's other former runners that never tested positive came back down to Earth after the Gatlin bust and his de facto blacklisting. Expect them to stay there, if they're smart. Unless there's some BALCO-like revelation/scandal, they'll probably keep their stolen hardware, but we can hope that they don't get to collect anymore.
You typically seem pretty knowledgeable about the sport, even you can't be this naive.
What about Lance Armstrong. I wonder how many growths they've had to cut out of him, probably 100's. The dude always has a bandage on somewhere from the incisions.
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