Kip Kangogo took down Boaz today at Griak invite. Kip won by about 9 seconds even more suprising is that Oregon won the team title. Although a lot of teams held out their big guns like Wisco although check out their two froshs going 7 and 13. http://www.gophersports.com/sports/game_stats.asp?event_id=4154&sport_id=mcross
Go Canada!
I know that there are some ifs, but with those frosh performances if they can get Spiker, Teg, Wallace, etc. rolling, they will be very, very tough!!!!!!!!!!!
article on where abouts of Kippy
ANyone know the course record at Griak? Just wondered how these guys performed relative to others. Thanks
I think what those two guys ran is definitely a record for their division ... under 24:00 is pretty fast for Masters.
It is pretty fast barbarian...he should just turn pro now, and stop putzing around with these wussy American runners...at least on the pro-circuit he'll have some real men to offer him competition.
Kip is 22.
How old are you?
must be nice to be a 22-year-old sophmore. considering most Americans are 22 when they complete their NCAA elgibility. i've still got my money on Jorge Torres...for once it will be nice to see a legit collegiate athlete win Nationals. Go Jorge! 3-2-1
Who are the Americans that have won the individual title? Prefontaine, Virgin, Salazar, Eyestone, Hacker, Ramirez, Kennedy, Goucher, Anyone else in the past 30 years?
'98 cross wrote:
must be nice to be a 22-year-old sophmore. considering most Americans are 22 when they complete their NCAA elgibility. i've still got my money on Jorge Torres...for once it will be nice to see a legit collegiate athlete win Nationals. Go Jorge! 3-2-1
Yeah no kidding. If it wasn't for the fact that he is such an old sophmore he wouldn't be any good. Sure there are 22 year old seniors, "elite" Americans, etc. who couldn't keep up with this guy, but what does that matter. In fact, the only reason why Americans can't keep up with the rest of the world is because they are all cheaters. That's righ all of them. It's not that we spend more time whining about the competition than training to beat the competition, it's that everyone is a cheater except us. Boo hoo, poor little old us. We are always being screwed over by everyone else. Waaaah!
True that!!!
They (some foreigners) are good runners but are their papers legit?? Some do have an advantage based on maturity and age. Look at Boaz...honestly tell me if he looks a day under 30. No WAY!!!! Let them compete, who cares. But the NCAA is so big on being honest and fair that it makes us american runners wonder what is fair and what is not. Take for example the Jeremy Bloom case. (The professional skier who had to drop his endorsments to play football for CU) The NCAA is so caught up in the non-important issues that they let these non qualified athletes compete. In EMU's case, Boaz is the only foreigner i know of that is too old. I know Gavin is legit as was Ben Reese (at least on age) who ran for them a few years ago. I think it is absurd to not acknowledge the fact that the reasons American distance runners are inferior in the NCAA is because the NCAA is making it that way.
Falcon???
Wow, that's right. I was in that race too. I even ran right next to him until he buried everyone at the 5 mile mark
The thing that impresses me is that Kip is a MILER. I saw him at Harry Jerome this summer- he ran 3:43 by himself in the slow section then ran 3:42 in the fast section the next day. Dude has both wheels and tank.
a few embellishments in the newspaper article.....
1) Kangogo didn't win Can Track Champs...he was 2nd
2) There are no Can National community champs...only provincial/bi-provincial.
But the guy is definitely for real. hell if u can run fast in Lethbridge which has no real track facilities, then u can definitely run wherever.......
Falcon never ran Griak, but Teg won last year in 23:58.
Actually we got off subject and were referring to American NCAA xc champions of which there have been very few of in the last 30 years. The list of them are pretty impressive. Anyone who has won this meet has gone on to world class it seems.
Hey, I am a fan of Kip Kangogo, and admittedly was pleasantly surprised to see him run so well at Griak. I'm curious what the public opinion on him is now. Was Boaz at the top of his game? I thought Kip was being way overlooked in all of the preseason talk, but even though I think he is awesome, I wouldn't have picked him over Jorge and Boaz at Nationals before the year started. Would you now, or is that getting a little too greedy?
I knew Canada would start producing great distance guys again. Has he "become" Canadian yet by the way? Is he still Kenyan?