should hawaii go to the bcs title game?

Nice post, Scott. Are you gonna be in Columbia for the winter? I'll probably make it to a few sundays at strictly running.

Yes, it's all secret. And the government has found bigfoot and aliens.

No one gets it Hawaii tried to schedule better teams and those teams won't play them (It's been documented). People were ducking Hawaii.

I know Hawaii tried to schedule better teams. But that doesn't change the fact that they DID NOT actually play better teams. So their 12-0 record isn't all that impressive. It's that simple.

an alcoholic in college wrote:

Anyone that says Hawaii should be in the championship is just trying to get a rise out of people, because Hawaii doesn't deserve to be there. And how the hell is Colt Brennan the #1 Heisman candidate? He missed some games during the season.

Doesn't deserve to be there? Who does? Every frickin team of note has tried very hard to show they don't belong either. D1 football is either getting tougher (not), or this year just plain sucks! Lets just allow th AP to announce the winners and disperse the BCS funds. Then, go back to the old bowl game methodology so at least we can see SOMETHING interesting this year.

And thats the problem with the system. Hawaii can't help it teams won't play them. They can only beat the teams they play. Whether it be by 1 or 50, OSU didnt handle their business, neither did alot of other schools.

I can't argue their conference games nothing you can do about that, being in that conference

One of the important factors is strength of schedule. Hawaii and Kansas don't have any.

The SOS relies on last year's team and the athletic department from ten years prior whom negotiated the last years opponents ahead of time. From year to year players and coaches change. The SOS has been invalidated by virtually all critics as an indicator of athleticism. The SOS remains as part of the BCS and has been disclaimed by the BCS who says it does not conduct a national championships but a "Bowl Championship" i.e. 'Happy New Years !' festival games. Thus the SOS is not a valid measure of a current football team. Hope this helps.

All that matters:

Hawaii plays D1 football.

They haven't lost.

How is it possibly fair and effective for a team like that NOT to be given a chance to play for the national championship?

It doesn't matter if they're good or not. They have won, period. So they should be able to keep playing.

filmore east wrote:

All that matters:

Hawaii plays D1 football.

They haven't lost.

How is it possibly fair and effective for a team like that NOT to be given a chance to play for the national championship?

It doesn't matter if they're good or not. They have won, period. So they should be able to keep playing.

Well, that I can swallow. Hawaii may not be the best team in the country, but you are right. They can't help what their schedule looks like, and they won every game they played. So what more could they have done? Is it fair to tell a DI team who has won every game that it's not enough and they basically had no chance to play for the NC before the season even started? I see what you're saying.

The only problem with that is Hawaii barely won a few of those games. I know you're probably thinking a win is a win. But when you barely beat teams that most people haven't even heard of, that doesn't help your case for a top 5 ranking. If Hawaii had been wining games New England Patriots style, they would probably be headed to New Orleans.

And Hawaii is undefeated. LSU and OSU play in weak conferences and still lost. USC lost to Stanford. WV, MO. FL, etc all play in wussy confereces. Hawaii beat a Pac-10 team yesterday. The PAC-10 is the top conference, all teams are pretty even, unlike the Big12, Big10, SEC where all the nostalgic teams have been suffering from the lack of quality preps opting for west coast schools in anticipation of the soon to be announced NCAA DI-A playoff brackets.

A win is a win wrote:

And Hawaii is undefeated. LSU and OSU play in weak conferences and still lost. USC lost to Stanford. WV, MO. FL, etc all play in wussy confereces. Hawaii beat a Pac-10 team yesterday. The PAC-10 is the top conference, all teams are pretty even, unlike the Big12, Big10, SEC where all the nostalgic teams have been suffering from the lack of quality preps opting for west coast schools in anticipation of the soon to be announced NCAA DI-A playoff brackets.

Jesus Christ you're like a broken record.

Ohio State 28

Lsu 17

keep in mind that the sec has 3 teams in the top 9 and 6 in the top 25. thats a pretty good conference if you ask me. the acc has

Hawaii was less than 3 minutes from losing to San Jose State, Nevada, and Louisiana Tech. They needed miracles to beat all 3.

Alan

BCS is bullshit if the voted one SEC team in the Top 10. LSU lost to a nothing Arkansas team in swampville and they get to go to the BCS title game ? Johnny Mac's Holocaust-survivor looking distance squad could have beaten LSU. Bullshit. Who voted. What's their names, alma maters, newspaper/mag/TV station ? This is a crock. The BCS is a total crock.

If Hawaii beats Georgia then they have to be recognized as the #1 team in the country by the general public and the AP, even though the system says the BCS champ is the national champ. If they lose to Georgia then they are not #1.

I'm hoping that Hawaii wins and wins big, then when they are not the year end #1 there will be no remaining argument for keeping the BCS.

blaznbison24 wrote:

Should I be allowed to represent the US in the 5k during the Beijing Olympics? I've won all my local 5k's against very weak competition, and almost got beat by several school girls, but held on for the victory. I've never raced anyone good, and even though I've struggled several times, I've never lost either, so I deserve to go!

The problem with your little argument is that we decide who goes to Beijing by getting together all of the best runners and making them compete against each other. With college football, the BCS goes out of its way to keep the best from competing at the end of the season and then votes on who wins.

Nobody claims the right to name a national champ. The BCS in fact only claims a BCS champ. The NCAA could start a playoffs and then we\'d have an NCAA Natl Champion. People need to voice their outrage at TV deciding things in secret without public review and due process. The NCAA is the best solution.