Hawaii is #1 now

Hawaii vs USC should be the BCS title game. The BCS sucks. Hawaii should meet USC on Jan 12, and USC will get its ass kicked.

When you think about it, if you deduct the handicap the east/midwest/south gets from the eastern press, Hawaii is number 1, USC is number 2, and Arizona State is number 3.

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Hawaii is #1 not matter what the popularity polls say. The popularity polls aren't the players, and they just vote for their alma maters.

Hawaii doesn't deserve to be ranked #1. The teams ranked ahead of them have had to earn their less-than-perfect records. You know how many teams had a harder schedule than Hawaii this year? 2. Out of almost 120 teams in I-A, there are 2 teams with an easier schedule. You can't tell me they deserve #1 because they blew through a bunch of creampuffs. You think LSU or OSU (Or Oregon, or Missouri, or Kansas, or...) would still have lost games if they played Hawaii's schedule?

I can agree the Hawaii in no way could be #1. LSU lost to a dildo Arkansas team in Baton Rouge and should not be in the BCS title game. OSU lost to a no name Illinois team that got slaughtered all year long and should not be in the BCS Title game. USC lost to Stanford, hah, what a laugh. Oregon has no D, and Arizona walloped their prima donnas, nailed them one by one and sent them to the quacks. Georgia is on the Atlantic Ocean and gets added 10 places to the BCS poll just for that. If Georgia were on the Pacific ocean, subtract 10 places. VT, BC, WV, KS, MO played weak schedules, and fell apart under pressure. CA played the Pac-10 and got walloped. The one highlight all year was the PAC-10. No PAC-10 team had an easy schedule, Cal, Or, AzSt, Usc, Ucla survived and took a beating, literally. The PAC-10 is the model conference.

Unfortunately, there will be no conclusions after the bowl games either. The bowl games are holiday demonstration post-season games played after teams have 4 whole weeks off. The teams are not sharp, in fact they are rusty, drunk, doped, super-sized, and toked-out. No matter how much you practice, you don't play the same in a real game. That's why the 1st round in March Madness has the sucker teams, i.e. lowest ranked vs highest ranked, to give the high ranking teams a game to burn of the HGH and steroids from Lance Armstrong's suppliers. Even if Hawaii demolishes Georgia by 28 points, there will be doubts to their #1 popularity. You just can't expect kids to roll out of bed after partying New Year's eve, and play the biggest game of their young lives.

TV Says wrote:

Hawaii is #1 not matter what the popularity polls say. The popularity polls aren't the players, and they just vote for their alma maters.

Ok. Well, we'll see when Hawaii takes on the Bulldogs. We'll see how overrated the SEC is. Colt Brennen will be up against the biggest, most athletic defensive line he's faced all season. I say he makes alot of mistakes and gets sacked more than he'll care to remember.

Georgia 35

Hawaii 17

Hawaii is an awesome team. Even the BCS, ridiculed to death since it's inception, has recognized Hawaii, Colt Brennan, and the WAC, by selecting Hawaii for the BCS consolation game. Again, it will only be a demonstration game, similar to MLB visits to Japan for goodwill series. People will draw all sorts of exaggerated conclusions that only an true NCAA January playoffs can squelch.

Sagarin Speaks wrote:

Hawaii is an awesome team. Even the BCS, ridiculed to death since it's inception, has recognized Hawaii, Colt Brennan, and the WAC, by selecting Hawaii for the BCS consolation game. Again, it will only be a demonstration game, .

Kind of like that exhibition between Boise State and Oklahoma last year. Good thing for the sooner losers that game didn't really count.

Suckahs wrote:

Hawaii vs USC should be the BCS title game. The BCS sucks. Hawaii should meet USC on Jan 12, and USC will get its ass kicked.

Didn't 'SC drop like 70 plus on hawaii not too long ago? Go abuse some meth you stupid moke. Native Hawaiians are the dunbest people in the world, and there school is piece of academic toilet paper covered in brown shit.

The WAC rules ! it the season is over.

Boise State 2007 national champion

Hawaii 2008 national champion

Actually...even though I'm definitely no apologist for the non-BCS conference teams and think posters like The WAC rules! are stupid...if Hawaii and LSU both win then Hawaii really should be #1. if Ohio State wins I'd give them the edge as the marquee win would mute the criticism (warranted or not) of their schedule.

Of course i expect Georgia to win handily. Oklahoma was vastly overrated last year and their losing was no surprise. This year's Georgia has actually beaten a few teams better than Texas A&M.

Close losses against Arkansas, Kentucky, and Illinois are greater than close wins against the likes of Nevada, Louisiana Tech and Washington. That's why Hawaii will get slaughtered. How many bowl eligible teams did Hawaii beat this year compared to LSU and OSU?

Alan

Read my post carefully. i said i think Hawaii will lose and otherwise if OSU wins they should be #1. But let's face it: kentucky has turned out to be pretty weak (7-5) and LSU nearly lost to 6-6 Alabama and looked ugly against god-awful Ole Miss. Hawaii's schedule was easier but at least they won their damn games!

Georgia has every bit as legitimate a claim to the #2 spot as LSU especially they way they've been playing lately. if Hawaii beats them (and they probably won't) they've proven that they too can play with the big boys.

Usually i agree and say the WAC/MWC have no place in championship discussions. This year is weird because none of the BCS teams are playing like they even want it.

Not long ago, espn.com had a column ehtitled, "Bowl Games We Would Like To See." #1 was Hawaii vs. USC. Why? They wanted to see how Hawaii would fare against a team that actually has a defense. I don't want to say anything negative about BYU and Utah--and they're not even Hawaii and BSU's conference--both fine schools and athletic programs that some have recommended to join the Pac-10. But the other teams in the region look to me more like an ultimate frisbee team ATTEMPTING to play football. People east of the Mississippi all know this, and that's why no wetern team except USC and maybe Oregon these days gets any repect from the polls.

Hawaii averages less than 80 yards per game rushing against low quality opponents. To me, that's not really a football team. As for BSU, why don't you go play people like USC and Texas A&M as Fresno State has?

The Game I'd like to see (for comic relief):

BSU attempting to tackle Hester.

We'll never know for sure until there's an NCAA playoffs. The consensus is the PAC-10 is the top conference in college football and the WAC and MWC achieved parity with the east/south/middle states some two decades ago. Yet, all across America debates rage on. PAC-10 fans love how the MWC and WAC has filled in the void. No longer do PAC-10 teams have to fly across country for top opponents. Now they can just take a 2 hour bus ride for out-of-conference games that maintain their reputations. Colt Brennan has a severe handicap as a left coaster even though, in my opinion, he is the beast player in college football this year. The bowl games will be interesting, but again as always inconclusive, since the 4 week respite renders the bowls a goodwill tour. I mean when the Dodgers and Yankees used to tour Latin America during the off season, no one argued who won the tour. It was for fun, the players were sauced the whole time. That's the same as the bowl season, college football takes a fun break. Akin to a USATF convention, a rewards mechanism for the insiders and good-ole-boys ;-)

Consensus with whom? You and yourself? The MWC and WAC are nowhere near the level of any of the BCS conferences.

And i really don't think a playoff would be the panacea everyone expects. Who gets to go? The conference champions? So the tourney is determined by the stupid tiebreaker rules that put Tennessee in the CCG over Georgia? Plus the season is too short already and by the time you count the conference championship games and possibly 3 playoff games you'd have to cut it down even more. Or a 4-team playoff? Then USC who is everyone's favorite now wouldn't get to go. Nor would Hawaii.

And of course there's the obvious problem that sometimes the best team doesn't win the playoff. So just face it fellas - college football just really isn't about the championship and a playoff wouldn't change that. Enjoy it for what it is.

Every sport has a playoffs and a champion at the end of the season. Only college football ends the season with no champion. With the MWC and WAC having achieved parity with the east/south/midwest states some two deacdes ago, it\'s time that we had include them in a fair and level playoff brackets to determine the college football champion. The polls just too ridiculous, subjective, and are run by organizations with their own proprietary agendas and profit goals. The goals are noble and worthy, from increasing profits for newspaper, magazine, and TV programming, to resurrecting the nostalgic football programs of long ago.

The proposal flying around the internet for a January playoffs would not suit the cold weather schools very well. A playoffs in December would be better. The teams would be scheduled to play once per December week, Friday or Saturday, circumventing their particular bowl game. The bowl games would not count, and would remain a separate tradition, as it should be. The final 8 teams would meet in at a warm weather site starting after the bowl games are over. In this way, teams play every week, and could then be sharp and ready, and we could have a real national champion.

[quote]Coach D wrote:

Hawaii averages less than 80 yards per game rushing against low quality opponents. To me, that's not really a football team.

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Until they outlaw passing, that is the stupidest statement I have heard. Are you really that ignorant?