No.
I don't need one nor would I get anything out of owning one.
No.
I don't need one nor would I get anything out of owning one.
one who hunts wrote:
RFXCrunner wrote:I just don't see the sport in gun hunting unless it is a muzzleloader.
For some of us, hunting isn't just about a challenge or a sport. Some of us really do like to eat what we kill and we want and use the meat. My wife cooks practically everything you would normally use beef in with venison, and it's just as good with a lot less fat. Plus, it's a heckuva lot cheaper. I bought a meat grinder for $150 and have had it for years, I spend a few bucks on a hunting license each year, and in return for those investments I couldn't even begin to estimate how many hundreds of pounds of meat I've gotten. Sure I enjoy being out in the woods hunting (except for the really nasty weather days), but if it weren't for the meat, I wouldn't do it. Running is my sport. I view hunting totally different, and it's the primary reason I own guns.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hunt for trophies either. I've eaten everything I've ever killed, and I'm not saying that gun hunting is somehow "less" of an activity than bow hunting. But I'm not exactly starving without hunting either. It costs me far more time and money to hunt than it would to go grocery shopping(especially since its a fair haul to get to decent hunting areas from where I live), so I choose to do it the most challenging way I can, to make a sport out of it. I'm not chastising your choice to gun hunt, thats fine by me. I just like more of a challenge.
Sorry, but that study has been discredited, even by Kellerman himself. He admits that his study did "not include cases in which burglars or intruders are wounded or frightened away by the use or display of a firearm." Also he also did not look at situations in which intruders purposely " avoided a home known to be armed." In his analysis of the study cited, Gary Kleck notes that the estimation of gun ownership rates were inaccurate and that the total population came from a non-random selection of only two cities. Kleck,"Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America" New York: Aldine de Gruyter.1991
FYI, 86% of the deaths reported in that study were suicides, and the remaining deaths involved criminal activity between family members (drug deals gone bad).
Just another case of a "study" conducted to achieve a desired result.
Good try, though.
One of my favorite things to do on Letsrun is to read the first post in a thread and then the last to see how far the topic switches to something else completely and how fast. After barely 60 posts, we're arguing about WMD's! This was an impressive one!
As for the original question, I think the best way to handle things is to tell everyone that you have tons of guns around you at all times even though you don't own a single gun. That way everyone knows that you're a crazy bastard not to be trifled with, however, you don't run the risk of shooting yourself in the face.
Suggest you read up on the Bill of Rights, as well as the definition of militia, per US Code:
§ 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
Not so good of an attempt, but try again!
No gun for me. I don't even bother to lock my doors and windows every night.
The fact of the matter is, when 'the right to bear arms' was put into the 2nd amendment to the constitution, they were referring to large muskets that took a very long time to load. They were NOT referring to small, easily concealable handguns.
Citizens do not have the right to take the life of another human being (unfortunately that is a right the gov claims). Therefore they should not be provided with the means to. Hunting rifles is one thing. But handguns that were purely designed to kill other human beings should not exist save for the military/police. If you think criminals have guns, then that is why police are given guns. Crack down it.
It is much harder to kill a human being with a knife, than it is to kill them with a gun - both physically and mentally. Crime rates would drop drastically. And so would our casual approach to death and murder and the popularity of guns.
It's amazing to me that christian right wing nutjobs think it's okay to restict love making but not okay to restrict gun ownership. Get out. It is not a human right to own the tools which can kill other human beings.
Allowing handgun ownership is like saying - hey, we are going to outlaw robbery, but every citizen has a basic human right to have the key to the safe at the local bank. Nope, you're not allowed to steal. But we're going to make it very easy for you to do it. Same goes for murder.
As someone who knows people affected by child handgun violence, that is another horrible reality of allowing tools of death to be casually bought and sold and kept in your house.
I have quite a few,most inherited from my Dad also a Trapshooter.
People talk about guns being designed only to kill, i guess that is true in the broadest general sense.
If you enjoy Olympic style shotgunning, skeet or Trap, your guns are kind of like golf clubs, you have many different guns for different conditions/uses, they all have as their ulitmate purpose to be as accurate as possible on a clay target at about 60mph. Their are thousands of people who enjoy this activity who would never consider hunting, even though that was its original design, Hunting practice, generations later most Trapshooters & Skeetshooters enjoy it as a specialized contest of skill and their guns are designed as such.
Actually since i do alot of running & biking i am considereing getting into biathlon as it is much easier on the knees cross country skiing vs running.
...if Hillary gets in I probably will as the borders will be wide open and we will be forced to embrace who knows what.
It will be a grim time for America.
Why do Liberals hate this country so much that they want to destroy it, anyway?
Even George Carlin commented on it on today's Opie and Anthony radio show: "...you can expect censorship from the Right, but from the Left? I never saw that coming."
Just a thought.. wrote:
The penis I was born with works just fine and is of sufficient length and girth, so I have no need for a compensatory surrogate.
Well unlike you people in my neighborhood get killed at stop signs for no reason...yes I own a gun.
>tools of death
DOWN WITH KITCHEN KNIVES!!!
A documented and peer-reviewed refutation to that:http://www.guncite.com/gcdgklec.html -- a reprint of "Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun" by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz, from the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, vol. 86, issue 1, 1995.
Just a thought.. wrote:
worley wrote:Provide a documented and peer reviewed study of this statistic please.New England Journal of Medicine peer-reviewed enough for you?
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/314/24/1557?ijkey=d8ea26050eb2c306ba8f62e8cc4f41b417e28cbc&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha
I'm a single female and I live alone. I own a hand gun and a 22. My dad took me hunting when I was younger so I know how to shoot and care for a gun. I practice on the shooting range about every other month. I feel safer having my gun and my rifle.
-Do you really think our gov't would nuke its own state?[/quote]
I don't... but I find it crazy logic that pro-gun folks use standing up to the government as an excuse for owning a gun.
"If" you had the balls to try and use it, they'd role a tank through your house. Ask the Branch Dividians how well it went standing up to the government with guns.
And for the record... I don't own one... but would like one.
Jennie wrote:
I'm a single female and I live alone. I own a hand gun and a 22. My dad took me hunting when I was younger so I know how to shoot and care for a gun. I practice on the shooting range about every other month. I feel safer having my gun and my rifle.
The thing is, not everyone is that responsible. Not everyone is level-headed. Not everyone is moral-minded. Not everyone will respect a firearm such as you've described. Thus, you will inevitably get abuses. And the people who do abuse the power never should have been given the power to begin with.
Sal Paradise wrote:
The thing is, not everyone is that responsible. Not everyone is level-headed. Not everyone is moral-minded. Not everyone will respect a firearm such as you've described. Thus, you will inevitably get abuses. And the people who do abuse the power never should have been given the power to begin with.
That's why I'm greatly in favor of registration and waiting periods for ownership of guns.
I own several handguns / rifles / shotguns for the same reason I have a plan(s) for housefires, tornados, and home intrusions. I will do what is necessary to protect my family and survive. I wish my little space in the world was safe from natural and man-made dangers, but the reality is it ain't!
uncle pervy wrote: Ask the Branch Dividians how well it went standing up to the government with guns.
This is misleading in the sense that we are not sure who fired first. If it wasn't the Davidians do they not have the right to defend themselves? I'm not saying I support what thost wacko's were doing but since we do not know exactly what happened this statement sounds sort of bold.