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1. Patrick Ivuti (KEN ) 2:11:11

2. Jaouad Gharib (MAR ) 2:11:11

3. Daniel Njenga (KEN ) 2:12:45

4. Robert K. Cheruiyot (KEN ) 2:16:13

5. Ben Maiyo (KEN ) 2:16:59

6. Christopher Cheboiboch (KEN ) 2:17:17

7. Bong-ju Lee (KOR ) 2:17:29

8. Michael Cox (USA ) 2:21:44

9. Jason Flogel (USA ) 2:26:34

10. Eric Blake (USA ) 2:26:55

2:26 gets 10th at Chicago!

Results from Twin Cities

MEN

Mykola Antonenko 2:13:54

Joseph Mutinda 2:20:12

Augustus Kavutu Mbusya 2:21:13

David Chepkwony 2:21:55

Stephen Muturi 2:22:16

WOMEN

Svetlana Ponomarenko 2:34:09

Alena Vinitskaya 2:38:23

Sharon Cherop 2:38:45

Robyn Friedman 2:42:15

Caroline Cretti 2:43:13

Lilian Chelimo 2:47:02

Susan Loken 2:48:36

I am not sure which ones are American.

WOW. A six minute gap between 1st and 2nd at Twin Cities. Antonenko could have been high fiving the crowd for the last mile and it wouldn't have mattered. 4 minutes on the women's side is also big.

hypnotoad wrote:

The tape is "necessary" for the sponsors. Wihtout that finish tape (more like banner) Ivuti would be taking home a good 50K less today.

Why can't they string a long tape across the whole finishing area, from post to post, and take it out of the hands of the old blue-jackets who hold it and generally screw things up.

Anyone else find that the Chicago women's finish struck a chord of vengeance in them? I'm referring to all these girls who think they're all-stars because they run 17:30 for 5k and get scholarships, D1 recognition, etc. Never mind that they are over 3 minutes slower than the world record. Meanwhile, a guy who runs 15:00, less than 2:30 off the world record, is basically a nobody.

Here was a woman thinking she's hot international-level shit for running 6:15 mile pace, and then found out she's really just a stupid kid who forgot that 80 meters is not that big of a gap when you are going that slow. It's no more difficult than catching up to your teammates after you stop to tie your shoe on a long run.

Tape: A long tape would be hard to hold onto and hard for the runners to break.

Romanian girl: Should have looked back. But still, 80m lead with 400m to go? No one makes that up unless you are dying or they are sprinting....Adere (a deer) can sprint...:)

Finishing a marathon: Only sprint when you have to. When you get to the last few hundred yards you hope no one is near you so you can just maintain to the line. Look around and make a judgement. You sprint and it feels like your hamstrings are going to pop off..."Oooh, there's another day rest....and another...ow...another". Even in a race as big as Chicago you're going to string out enough so that you don't have to sprint at the end as everyone is just as tired as you so you just maintain, maintain, maintain.

Alan

Aristotle33333 wrote:

Anyone else find that the Chicago women's finish struck a chord of vengeance in them? I'm referring to all these girls who think they're all-stars because they run 17:30 for 5k and get scholarships, D1 recognition, etc. Never mind that they are over 3 minutes slower than the world record. Meanwhile, a guy who runs 15:00, less than 2:30 off the world record, is basically a nobody.

Here was a woman thinking she's hot international-level shit for running 6:15 mile pace, and then found out she's really just a stupid kid who forgot that 80 meters is not that big of a gap when you are going that slow. It's no more difficult than catching up to your teammates after you stop to tie your shoe on a long run.

you poor, bitter little man (or is it boy?)

"Vengeance"? For what? Did she hurt you somehow? Um...bitter?

Pirtea made a $60,000.00 mistake.

Always pay attention run thru the tape and as Yogi said "Don't count your chickens till the fat lady sings!"

My point is that when you are running as slow as 94 seconds per quarter then 80 meters is really not too difficult to make up. Suppose Romanian was at 320 to go when Adere was at 400.

Romanian: 94 * 320/400 = 75 seconds to finish

Adere: must run last 400 in 74.9 or faster. Highly plausible considering she can average 72.5 for a 10k race.

If the Romanian could have just run an 80-second quarter (seems like a reasonable demand, considering that's the pace the winner of this race usually has to sustain the entire way), or even an 85, she would have made it essentially impossible for Adere.

Romanian: 80 * 320/400 = 64 seconds to finish

Adere: Must run 63.9 or faster. Not easy when you have legs of lead.

Right on. Of course now we know she would have been wise to take a look, especially given her competition. But, like most things, that's easy to say from home, after the fact. The VAST majority of races where the winner has an *80-meter gap* with 400 to go don't feature much shoulder-checking. So I don't think her decisions were so poor, even though it MIGHT have helped her to look. Or not.

My whole point with the long tape is that it could be *strung up* so that it actually stayed on the line (unlike today's race, where the panicking holders moved it off the line), and so that it covered the eligible finishing plane in its entirety. It wouldn't be harder to break, it would be easier. Not that it's hard, anyway -- if you look at video or photos of most finishes, they pre-cut the tape except for an inch or so, to guarantee a nice photo-op.

I don't know whether they had FinishLynx or equivalent at Chicago today -- someone knows, but not me.

Let's assume they did.

So "stupid letsrunners," take a moment and ask yourself if there might be a reason other than "panicking" for the holders to have moved off the line.

.....do you see it yet?

And every tape I've seen or handled is held together with velcro. That means it's "pre-cut" but not in the way you're thinking.

Antonenko looked amazing throughout the race.

2:33 is well under 6 min. pace.

2:33= 5:51p

9. Jason Flogel (USA ) 2:26:34

10. Eric Blake (USA ) 2:26:55

no trials for these guys. top 10 at chicago sit home. probably was hot.

wineturtle wrote:

Pirtea made a $60,000.00 mistake.

Always pay attention run thru the tape and as Yogi said "Don't count your chickens till the fat lady sings!"

Wineturtle, you made a mistake too. Dan Cook said, "It ain't over until the fat lady sings." Yogi said, " It ain't over 'til it's over."

Satchel Paige said,"Don't look back: Something may be gaining on you."

Do they have blood doping tests at Chicago Marathon???

Do they have pinhead tests where you live?