Lindsey Anderson 4:25 1500 time trial?

Wow... all I have to say about this quote is Wow..."I was a little apprehensive about rooming with her, I think because I had a bunch of preconceived notions about Mormons."Anna sounds really special...

realfan144 wrote:

From Anna Willard's blog on flotrack:

http://www.flocasts.com/flotrack/flotrackr/profile.php?u=14892&v=blog&id=88

Willard paced Lindsey Anderson to a 4:25 1500 time trial. I hope Anderson wasn't running all out, because I'd expect that as a sub 9:40 World Championship steeplechaser that she can run faster than 4:25!

Who doesn't, I'm not sure what your point is. She is being honest and then she says that Anderson is a cool person, I don't see anything remotely wrong with that quote.

She was just being honest. What's your deal?

His point was that Mormons are individually some of the nicest people around but collectively some of the weirdest.

As an aside question, if I was a genuine, nice guy who also held the sincere belief that the white race would inherit the earth, could you look past it?

Hey Joe, the first step in overcoming bigotry is spending a little time with people you know nothing about. That's what Anna Willard was doing when she went to church with Anderson and McAdams. If Mormons are individually some of the nicest people around it would make sense that as a group they could be pretty nice as well. I've been a Mormon all my life, spent two years in a white shirt and tie knocking doors in Spain and I've never heard that we believe that the white race would inherit the earth. By misrepresenting the belief of a group of people you are contributing to hate.

mormon beliefs are pretty far out there. i mean the jews built a sailboat in 600 bc and came throught the medit sea and across the atlantic to settle america and interbreed with indians and then jesus appeared to them and told them they are the real shiznit and NOTHING of this was known to ANYONE until the 1800s when a teenager in in new york was chillin in the woods and the three persons of Jesus, God the Father and the Holy Spirit (not a trinity, mind you, but three distinct beings) and told him to go dig up some tablets written in a language (reformed egyptian) that no historian or linguist (reputed, at least) had ever heard of and no one has ever seen these supposed tablets since...whew that was one heck of a run-on, but yeah i would say that, though nice, they have some pretty weird (read:incorrect) beliefs.

oh yeah, the time trial was a 6 sec pr, which is crazy but awesome for her. good job, kick some a.

well said

So, what you are saying is it is no different then any of the other religions that are based in fact.

99.9% of religions are rediculous. How many nominal christians here ACTUALLY believe that moses, was 200+ years old?

[quote]gimmace wrote:

Wow... all I have to say about this quote is Wow...

\"I was a little apprehensive about rooming with her, I think because I had a bunch of preconceived notions about Mormons.\"

Anna sounds really special...

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I was taken aback at first when I read her blog, as well. It is not often that someone is that open and honest.

She certainly is special enough to be real about her preconceived notions. Anna, as a person living in Maine, Providence and now Michigan, probably has not had much exposure to Mormons and now she is opening up to the opportunity of meeting new people and dealing with preconceived notions head on. Good for her.

Kick ass at Worlds, Anna and Lindsey! We are rooting for you back in the States!

you will never meet a more honest person then Anna Willard...many people can't handle that.

Go Anna!

The "bursting into flames" comment was great. Great girl.

hsrunnerz wrote:

99.9% of religions are rediculous. How many nominal christians here ACTUALLY believe that moses, was 200+ years old?

your spelling is rIdiculous! also, are you defending one religion by saying it is no more or less based in fact than any other religion? that would be both false (mormonism is way less based in fact than judeo/christian beliefs bc it has any of their flaws PLUS many others, you see) and illogical (one doesn't follow from the other).

and which 0.01% of religions meets your ultimate approval?

You're correct Whoa. All religion is B.S.

Though I have to say, I don't see much of a difference between the Mormons and the Scientologists. They were made up by people who wanted to get fame/make money/etc. They're more B.S. than other religions simply because they copied the idea of "gee...how can we get people to do what we want?"

Hey, why do you have to turn this into a bash religion bash mormon thread. A nice young lady met and associated with Mormons for the first time and she basically said that her preconceptions were wrong. She sounds honest and nice.

Maybe the other posters could learn from her and not judge to harshly also. Anna does not say she embraces Mormon theology. She just notes that Lindsay and Josh seem to be o.k..

I thought her comment about bursting into flames was funny. I also thought tha josh"s tesing about killing a chicken at Church was funny. (IT WAS A JOKE)

Not too weird wrote:

Hey Joe, the first step in overcoming bigotry is spending a little time with people you know nothing about. That's what Anna Willard was doing when she went to church with Anderson and McAdams. If Mormons are individually some of the nicest people around it would make sense that as a group they could be pretty nice as well. I've been a Mormon all my life, spent two years in a white shirt and tie knocking doors in Spain and I've never heard that we believe that the white race would inherit the earth. By misrepresenting the belief of a group of people you are contributing to hate.

I never thought I would hear a Mormon tell someone to overcome bigotry.

Have you ever read the Book of Mormon? I would point you specifically to 2 Nephi Chater 5: 2 Nephi 5:21-23:

"And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.

And thus saith the Lord God: I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people, save they shall repent of their iniquities.

And cursed shall be the seed of him that mixeth with their seed; for they shall be cursed even with the same cursing. And the Lord spake it, and it was done.

And because of their cursing which was upon them they did become an idle people, full of mischief and subtlety, and did seek in the wilderness for beasts of prey."

You could also look at early statement by church founders and even recent comments. The Mormon Church's policy of racism is well documented and has only been changed recently after a long battle with the federal government. The Church of LDS still refused to ordain africans of any kind until a new "revelation" came from God in 1978 to give-up their 100 year stance on the cursed black race.

That said, I am sure you are nice guy (a really nice guy) but the beliefs of your church are simply intolerable to me. I think your flock is full of wolves adorned in soft, comfortable sheepskin.

Now maybe you could explain that the verses that you just mentioned had NOTHIG to do with anything except the nieces and nephews of the guy writing it. This is right after his Bothers had just tried to kill him.

That's right it is about a family feud that was still in its first generation.

Sorry, that the words of an uncle versus his murderous relatives is so intolerable that you would reject the religion. Too bad

As for the last bit about modern history. It is true that Blacks were allowed the preisthood until the 1970's. Women are still not allowed to hold the priesthood. in the Bible none of the Gentiles could hold the Preisthood and only one of the twelve tribes could hold it. I do not know the reasons for any of those prohibitions. I do know that each has come through a Prophet.

Yet, founders of the Mormon Church used that passage to justify their institutional racism. If you need more evidence of the Church of LDS' racism, I would be more than happy to oblige.

Strangely, Mormon's are fiercely defensive when you criticize their beleifs but, to be blunt, their beliefs are weird. That is why I reject your religion. For example, watch the cartoon linked below. I have talked extensively with Mormon missionaries and read a number of works (both Pro and Anti-Mormon) and the beliefs summarized in the cartoon below are an accurate (although biased) portrayal of Mormon beliefs.

I believe that many verses in the Bible were also used to justify Racism. That does not make the Bible Wrong it just make the interpretations of individuals wrong. God is no respecter of persons.

The big point is why do you feel the need to bash religion or talk theology on a track board? On a thread that just mentions that a young lady did not find her roommate to be as wierd as she thought a morman would be.

Morman's are a peculiar people. Let's just leave it at that.