There are probably more illegal aliens in your state than there are US troops in Iraq.
There are probably more illegal aliens in your state than there are US troops in Iraq.
the military budget is probably 100x what undocumented people allegedly 'take'
We have no one to blame but ourselves for not DEMANDING that our elected officials stop putzing around on this issue & then NOT electing new ones' to get the job done.
Damn!!!!
Shut up white boys. All of you are illegals.
How do you figure?
Bay Stater wrote:
We have no one to blame but ourselves for not DEMANDING that our elected officials stop putzing around on this issue & then NOT electing new ones' to get the job done.
Damn!!!!
I love it when you talk all butch (swoon).
Most illegals are workin hard contributing to America. The troops in Iraq are a net drain on the economy and fraknly aren\'t very good at what they do, look at the dismal defeat the terrorists have handed the U.S. again, it\'s another Vitenam fiasco. The illegals provide a net benefit to America, without them, this country would be far worse off, in spite of the rhetoric.
citigirl wrote:
How do you figure?
I believe he is refering to the fact that the Indians were here first and the Europeans(white people) came over here w/out permission, took over their land, and now run the show.
Workin Hard wrote:
The troops in Iraq are a net drain on the economy and fraknly aren't very good at what they do.
you are a complete idiot.
Even the illegals that are using fake or stolen SSNs are contributing to the system. They're having SS and taxes witheld with no hope of ever receiving any of it back. Pull 12-20 million SS contributors out of the pot and see how fast the system collapses.
Ok so if you remove all the illegals then what?
You realize (now this isn't racist, this is true) that most of these illegals are working in the fields or in construction for relatively cheap?
Would you like the prices of produce to rise because you don't want illegals living here who are making an honest living and working very hard. Most illegal immigrants are hard workers that are just trying to support a family. They get paid well below minimum wage but their contribution to the overall economy is FAR greater than their cost.
Go ahead get rid of illegal immigrants, see what happens to the agricultural economy then...
The produce would rot in the field if it were not for these great folks who come from Mexico to help feed us. The gringos are too fat and lazy to do any work. Look at the Army in Iraq, they sit on thier lazy asses riding in Strikers and HumVees because they are out-of-shape, and then they get their asses blown up like sitting ducks in a pond. Can anyone be so stupid ?
Workin hard or hardly workin,
Ever seen the many reports about illegals and the deliterious effect on our health care system, school systems, and drunken driving deaths? Truly amazing and scary.
Working hard during the day- granted. I appreciate the low prices on lettuce, apples and fine wine like the next guy. Its the huge extended welfare clans and the lack of American values I have a problem with. It doesn't bode well for the future of American economic dominance in the world.
Save the English language and our culture!
Say Red, from whence did "natives" come?
Cold shower...take a cold shower. ROFL.
They are not UNDOCUMENTED - they have documents, probably yours and will be opening a credit card in your name. They are ILLEGAL ALIENS! It does not matter if the military budget is 1000x or if we spend 100% of GDP on the military - they are still illegal aliens!Some guy and family show up in your house, and start washing the dishes and eating your groceries, then some pointy headed liberal guy points out that you spend 100x what they "take" on your "green house gas producing car". It is your house, you can do whatever the fvck you want to do!
tiredofbigots wrote:
the military budget is probably 100x what undocumented people allegedly 'take'
New York Running Company at Columbus Circle, Manhattan is notorious for hiring illegal immigrants based purely on the fact that they are good runners and will attract more customers.
How 'bout the ones who get paid cash under the table? How much are they contributing to our social security? Then they use that fake social security number to get workers comp and food stamps. Does that also help our economy? Geezus, you are so smart.
It's a great feeling when the hispanic family in front of you in the checkout line with 4 kids pays with a food stamp card and then goes out to get in their new Nissan Pathfinder.
Let's get to this idea that agriculture prices would increase if their were no more illegals in this country. Interesting point. True that the food ag industry is hurting in this country. But what is the #1 strain on our farms? Property taxes. What do these property taxes go to? They go to our schools, our roadways, fire and police and some to help support our hospitals. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE OVERBURDEN WITH GUESS WHAT????..... You got it! Illegal Aliens. So, if we got rid of the illegals, we wouldn't have to burden our farms with absolutely absurd property taxes.
Bottom line: Illegal aliens generally work in the service industries for upper class people who can afford their services. They make those services cheaper to afford and make the businesses cheaper to run. So the business owners and the wealty who use them save money. The illegals also bring down the wage of a legal service worker(since the legal worker has to pay taxes). Thus, illegal aliens make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
a good read for militant anti-immigrationists:
http://www.amazon.com/Different-Mirror-History-Multicultural-America/dp/0316831115
you're right, no one is truly "native" but it puts into perspective the difference in the euro mentality of accepting immigrants as compared to american indians, mexicans, etc.
most people pay property taxes in the form of property taxes on their homes. these taxes are assessed based on no more than x number of unrelated people living in this home. there are plenty of stories of 15 illegal guys living in a 2 bedroom, 2 bath apartment - nice.