Street fights usually take seconds, with explosive damage being done. I don't know that (BJJ) clinching your opponent and going for submissions is the ideal way on the streets. I'd assume know muay thai instead and smack him one quick, then get away.
The one with the big f**king sword.
Come on guys were is the typical ethno-centric pride...Thai boxing, Brazilian Ju-jitsu..
lets have some faith in the west
Queens rules Boxing
Greco-Roman Wrestling
and Savate
Id put Sambo in there to, but it has been tainted by Judo.
hahahaa...man this is a funny thread..
Don't train a groundbased art if you're interested in self defense. BJJ and Judo are great martial arts, don't get me wrong, but they're far more useful in match settings. You don't want to pull guard in a street fight, you want to be on your feet. You never know when that guy you're triangle choking's friend is going to come out and stomp you in the face. I would say that Judo is a more valid option than BJJ(emphasis on controlling whether the fight stays on the feet or goes to the ground), but really you want to be able to handle yourself on your feet. The best would be to find a multidisciplinary art. If that fails, I'd probably take Muay Thai or traditional kickboxing and learn to sprawl so people aren't so easily able to take you down, ala Chuck Liddel, etc. Avoid Tae Kwon Do, most forms of karate, etc. It's not that the art is terrible, though probably not as effective as others, but you'll probably end up in a McDojo somewhere learning nothing useful.
You already practice the most ancient form of self-defense. RUNNING!
I hold 1st degree black belt in Kenpo of which is faster and more effective than Tae Kwon do. Too bad the grandmaster of that martial art died of heart attack ( Ed Parker)in 91. Not to mention Ed Parker was a body guard for Elvis.
A nice, chiny .25 caliber automatic usually works. Just make sure the clip is fully loaded.
That's why you want to learn The Reality Fighting System. It teaches you how to fend off multiple attackers, even while on the ground.
But, fighting just one guy, BJJ is the way to go along with some Muay Thai.
Krav Maga sounds like the system I'd like to know when facing a worst case scenario. Wiki it.
TASER
Glock 17 with two 20 round clips of hollow points. also the Springfield Armory XD 45 worked pretty good in My last "fight"...Never under estimate the stopping power of a 45.
whatever man wrote:
Jeet Kune Do kung fu (Bruce Lee's style invemted in 1965)
Dude, everyone on here knows that Bruce Lee was a chacha dancer who got beat up by an old lady.
another vote for ONE of the most practical out there today:
Krav Maga
but gotta make sure you have an instructor who knows the shit well.
Post a link to this lie?
Wrestling
Muay Thai boxing
Unless you are going to be in a long drawn out fight BJJ isn't going to help you much in a bar fight. You need time to set up an arm bar or choke. Better to learn how to pull a guy's head down and knee him in the face or do a double leg take down and ground and pound.
I studied the Rex Kwan Do self-defense system. After one week with Rex in his dojo, I was prepared to defend myself with the strength of a grizzly, the reflexes of a puma, and the wisdom of a man.
Amen brother. Rex is the man.
TUF watcher wrote:
Wrestling
Muay Thai boxing
Unless you are going to be in a long drawn out fight BJJ isn't going to help you much in a bar fight. You need time to set up an arm bar or choke. Better to learn how to pull a guy's head down and knee him in the face or do a double leg take down and ground and pound.
You learn take downs in BJJ. The problem with wrestling is that you're one dimensional.
Considering your scenario: What if YOU get taken down by a good wrestler? What's your defense then? Knowing BJJ will not only allow you to take down others, it will teach you how to fight from the ground should YOU get taken down.
No, it doesn't take a long time to set up an arm bar. Anyone on top of me with an arm sticking out (and that will be anyone attemtping to throw a punch) will have his arm snapped in seconds. I also know how to control a person from the ground so he can't throw a punch. I can do a submission in several ways in seconds, or bump him off of me and mount him.
Knowing Muay Thai is great so you can keep it standing and work with some clinches. But, you never want to be one dimensional. Muay Thai guys get taken down all the time.
Ground and pound baby. It doesn't take much in a stand up fight for someone to land a lucky strike. Learn to get in close to someone's waist/hips and take them down. Fight is over after that. They'll probably try to turn their body to the left or right to try and push you off, then you just take their back and choke them out. If someone is coming at you know that 90% of the time they are going to come at you with a right hand.
Alan
So basically, it seems the best forms of defense are:
Brazilian JJ
Muay Thai
Krav Maga
With these three it becomes apparent that you can handle a person 1-on-1 w/ bjj and muay thai, and in case of several people Krav Maga would be another great tool.
If only I could figure out what the hell Jason Bourne was taught...