Deadline for Guaranteed Entry for ING New York City Marathon

There is no way to get it extended to May 6th? This way it includes the Long Island Half and full Marathon?

Is it just me, or doesn\'t a 1:23 half sound a lot easier than a 2:55 marathon. Why have the half marathon qualifiers at all? I\'m not trying to be elitist, I\'m just curious why NYC uses the half marathon as a qualifying distance. Thanks for any insight.

Someone in our club once told me it was either 1:16 or 1:18 for the half qualifier and they slowed it down.

BAA Runner wrote:

Is it just me, or doesn't a 1:23 half sound a lot easier than a 2:55 marathon. Why have the half marathon qualifiers at all? I'm not trying to be elitist, I'm just curious why NYC uses the half marathon as a qualifying distance. Thanks for any insight.

chicago has corrals that you qualify for based on time. the corrals go from "a" to "d" based on times previously run. you can get in the faster corrals a, b and c based on a half marathon time. not the "d" corral for some reason.

if you can run a 1:23 half or even a 1:35 half, but have never run a full marathon, there is a still a pretty good chance you will be running a sub 3:35 marathon. that time would put you about an HOUR faster than the average marathon time. i think it makes sense to give 1st timers with a decent half marathon time a shot at starting in front of the gallow-walkers and slower runners.

BAA Runner wrote:

Is it just me, or doesn't a 1:23 half sound a lot easier than a 2:55 marathon. Why have the half marathon qualifiers at all? I'm not trying to be elitist, I'm just curious why NYC uses the half marathon as a qualifying distance. Thanks for any insight.

A reason for the HM is to allow folks who have either not run a marathon or not run one in a while to be able to get it. The times may be soft, but that's the rationale (which I used a couple of years back to enter after a 20 year marathon hiatus; masters then was 1:24 and is now 1:30).

BAA Runner wrote:

Is it just me, or doesn't a 1:23 half sound a lot easier than a 2:55 marathon. Why have the half marathon qualifiers at all? I'm not trying to be elitist, I'm just curious why NYC uses the half marathon as a qualifying distance. Thanks for any insight.

This is actually a good thing. It increases the number of serious entrants and improves the event.

A substantial proportion--say, 70%--of the NYCM entrants are shufflers/walkers/clowns/charity runners. Some have a guaranteed entry, others come in through an open lottery. The percentage of lottery winners can be anywhere from 25-50%, depending on the number of projected free places available.

In guaranteeing a place to a good half-marathon finisher, you're only narrowing the odds of an individual jogger winning the open lottery. You're not taking it away from a serious participant.

What if you have a guy that has run 1:15 for a half and looking to run his first marathon. If you can't qualify with a half marathon time are you going to make him start at the back of the back or something?

BAA Runner wrote:

Is it just me, or doesn't a 1:23 half sound a lot easier than a 2:55 marathon. Why have the half marathon qualifiers at all? I'm not trying to be elitist, I'm just curious why NYC uses the half marathon as a qualifying distance. Thanks for any insight.

whoa they slowed the HM times down alot this year. I had buddy who ran just over 76 at altidude and they didn't buy his conversion argument. I guees he picked the wrong year. Also It used to 2:45 for the thon?Looks like he'd qualify

someone wrote:

What if you have a guy that has run 1:15 for a half and looking to run his first marathon. If you can't qualify with a half marathon time are you going to make him start at the back of the back or something?

BAA Runner wrote:

Is it just me, or doesn't a 1:23 half sound a lot easier than a 2:55 marathon. Why have the half marathon qualifiers at all? I'm not trying to be elitist, I'm just curious why NYC uses the half marathon as a qualifying distance. Thanks for any insight.

How recent do those performances have to be? I have those times well beat, but they are from 2-5 years ago.

how recent? wrote:

How recent do those performances have to be? I have those times well beat, but they are from 2-5 years ago.

Between 1/1/06 and 5/1/07.

I'm bumping this thread because I don't want anyone who is interested to miss this deadline on May 1. The qualifying window is January 1, 2006 through May 1, 2007. Send questions to marathonmailer@nyrr.org.

David Monti wrote:

The deadline for applying to the ING New York City Marathon for guaranteed entry is May 1. While there are several types of guaranteed entry, the most relevant here are those which are are performance-based. If you meet the standards, below, you will automatically be accepted for this year's race as long as you apply by May 1:

MEN -

18-39 years-old: Marathon, sub-2:55 or half-marathon sub-1:23

40-49: Marathon, sub-3:10 or half-marathon sub-1:30

50-59: Marathon, sub-3:30 or half-marathon sub-1:40

60+: Marathon, sub-3:45 or half-marathon sub-1:48

WOMEN -

18-39 years-old: Marathon, sub-3:23 or half-marathon sub-1:37

40-49: Marathon, sub-3:38 or half-marathon sub-1:44

50-59: Marathon, sub-3:52 or half-marathon sub-1:50

60+: Marathon, sub-4:13 or half-marathon sub-2:00:30

If you want to apply, go to the link below.

Hi David - I have a question. I got in with a half-marathon time from last year (1:10). I couldn't find any info on the website about sub-elite corrals. Will that time get me into one?

absolutely NOBODY cares about the long island half or full marathon, run exclusively on the freaking wantagh parkway.

neb wrote:

Hi David - I have a question. I got in with a half-marathon time from last year (1:10). I couldn't find any info on the website about sub-elite corrals. Will that time get me into one?

After the entry lottery is concluded in June, we'll have the full list of entrants, which included those granted guaranteed entry based on performance. We then comb the list for qualified people to be invited to take part in the sub-elite starting program. Roughly speaking, men who have a good chance of breaking 2:30 will be invited into the program, but it depends on how many faster people sign up for the race.

If you've qualied for the program, you'll hear from the NYRR this summer.

If you have run a 2:30 marathon, but do not apply by May 1st, what are the odds of getting in?

Word.There are a lot of Fat Asses in that race.

Alfred North Whitehead wrote:

This is actually a good thing. It increases the number of serious entrants and improves the event.

A substantial proportion--say, 70%--of the NYCM entrants are shufflers/walkers/clowns/charity runners. Some have a guaranteed entry, others come in through an open lottery. The percentage of lottery winners can be anywhere from 25-50%, depending on the number of projected free places available.

In guaranteeing a place to a good half-marathon finisher, you're only narrowing the odds of an individual jogger winning the open lottery. You're not taking it away from a serious participant.

bumping to try for an answer to my last question. Does it depend on how long you wait to register?

distance guy wrote:

If you have run a 2:30 marathon, but do not apply by May 1st, what are the odds of getting in?

Please e-mail me privately at

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Thanks.

hey distance guy (greg?)

you thinking of running new york? me too. that would be great if we were on the same training cycle. plus, hopefully, we will be able to run the race together. let me know what you are planning because i think i am going to register soon for the guaranteed entry.

later, ian