Fleet of mind wrote:
Michael Johnson's 100m split from 50m to 150m was 8.76secs.
This is the fastest 100m split ever. It should be noted that Johnson was already at maximum speed when he started this split, unlike the top relay runners, such as Bailey or Lewis, who only have a 20m acceleration zone before they start their 'split'.
This is the correct answer.
Carl Lewis has run 8.8xxsec 100m split on relay legs. Michael Johnson in 1996 200m Olympic final. His fastest 100m split time sector, was 8.7xxsec from 40m-140m of his 200m race. And remember thats half on a bend!!! His last 100m split of the 200m was 9.2xxsec.
Sprinters run, sub 9 all the time on relay legs. Leroy Burrell is the fastest second leg sprinter of all-time runing 8.85ses, and Bernard Williams. This is because sprinters are having a flying start, they are nearly at MAX SPEED when they hit the 100m Mark.
"Dennis Mitchell" could run the "3rd leg the bend" in 9.22sec.
Just afew stats.
"Bob Hayes" is meant to have run the fastest 100m split ever, some say 8.5/8.
"Bob Hayes or Michael Johnson or Carl lewis" have the fastets 100m sectors of all-time. RECORDED.
"Maurice Greene has the fastest ever 10m split times, from 10-100 during a 100m race, in every sector from blocks, he is the king, the Supream Machine"
My guess is that it would have to be a relay. You always have your fastest guys run longer legs by shortening their exchange zone so they get up to top speed well before their split actually starts and then lengthen their exchange at the end. WR is 37.4 which works out to a 9.35 avg with blocks. Say the first guy runs 9.9, that leaves an avg of 9.16 for the last 3. Anyone have splits for the last two WRs?
Alan
Runningart2004 wrote:
My guess is that it would have to be a relay. You always have your fastest guys run longer legs by shortening their exchange zone so they get up to top speed well before their split actually starts and then lengthen their exchange at the end. WR is 37.4 which works out to a 9.35 avg with blocks. Say the first guy runs 9.9, that leaves an avg of 9.16 for the last 3. Anyone have splits for the last two WRs?
Alan
37.40
Michael Marsh (10.00)
Leroy Burrell NOT GIVEN
Dennis Mitchell NOT GIVEN
Carl Lewis (8.85)
37.40
Jon Drummond (10.44)
Andre Cason (8.96)
Dennis Mitchell (9.43)
Leroy Burrell (8.92)
As someone else already stated, these athletes are NOT at top speed when they receive the baton, they are merely at a higher speed when they begin the 100m segment than athletes are in an open 100m (obviously, since their starting speed is 0 m/s.)
Bernard Williams has an 8.83 split, which is technically the fastest recorded FAT split (you can say what you want about Bob Hayes, but no one's been able to come up with much more than a decent guess at a hand-timed split for him). I'll let you guys decide on the validity of Williams's time. Lewis has several 8.8 splits, and Cason, Burrell, and Bailey, among others, all have speedy splits.
But the fact remains that none of them have covered that 100m in a shorter amount of time than Michael Johnson did in his 200m. Yes, he has the luxury of us being able to "start" this 100m segment as he is nearing his top speed, and thus ending it when he is only just starting to decelerate, but it is still faster than these 4x1 relays splits.
dennis mitchell said he was the greatest curve runner in the world and that they timed his split around 8.8.
midwesta wrote:
dennis mitchell said he was the greatest curve runner in the world and that they timed his split around 8.8.
Sprinters say a lot of things. Heck, all athletes do. If you ask any top thrower, they've broken the world record just about every time they've ever fouled a throw in competition and/or on each practice throw they've ever made. Most 12' pole vaulters in high school will swear they've cleared 14' regularly in practice with a bungy.
Doesn't mean any of it is true. In Mitchell's case, he was a damn good 3rd leg runner, probably the greatest, but an 8.8 curve runner he wasn't.
After the 1996 Olympic 200m Bob Costas told his viewers that MJ was running faster than any human everhad before, covering the last 100m in 9.04, and that he was, indeed, the world's fastest man. This comment was later credited with feuling the debate that led to the 150m showdown.
Wait so MJ broke the 100m world record in a 200m race? By a lot mind you..
Joe Shmoe wrote:
Wait so MJ broke the 100m world record in a 200m race? By a lot mind you..
Actually, you could say he broke it twice. 19.32 divided by 2 averages out to 9.66 per 100.
Some names.
8.76 Michael Johnson - fastest 100m (?) in his 19.32
8.83 Bernard Williams - fastest FAT 4x100 leg
8.85 Carl Lewis - 4x100
8.90 Daniel Sangouma - (who?!) 4x100
8.91 Leroy Burrell - 4x100
8.94 Maurice Greene - 4x100
8.95 Donovan Bailey - 4x100
8.95 Josh Johnson - 4x100
8.96 Andre Cason - 4x100
8.98 Dennis Mitchell - 4x100
8.99 Justin Gatlin - 4x100
9.01 Vladimir Krylov - (who!?) 4x100
9.69A Obadele Thompson - wind aided 100m (+5.7)
9.76A Churandy Martina - wind aided 100m (+6.1)
9.77 Asafa Powell - 100m WR
9.78 Carl Lewis - wind aided 100m (+5.2)
9.79 Andre Cason - wind aided 100m (+4.5)
9.83 Leonard Scott - wind aided 100m (+7.1)
interesting is the case of William Snoddy,
who ran 9.88 with a +11.2 tailwind,
and did not otherwise break 10.10
Roughly converted, it is a 10.43 performance.
Was there a tailwind when MJ ran 19.32?
Joe Shmoe wrote:
Was there a tailwind when MJ ran 19.32?
+0.4 m/s.
BisonHurdler wrote:
Fleet of mind wrote:Michael Johnson's 100m split from 50m to 150m was 8.76secs.
This is the fastest 100m split ever. It should be noted that Johnson was already at maximum speed when he started this split, unlike the top relay runners, such as Bailey or Lewis, who only have a 20m acceleration zone before they start their 'split'.
This is the correct answer.
The 'splits cannot be taken very accurately unless they have FAT along the way -- they did not with MJ's run and they rarely do. Since MJ was slowing at the end (just less than everyone else), his best 100m interval was well back, but since the turn is a hindrance it is hard to tell and hard to have reasonable splits -- gh and others argue that the error in the splits make using these measures almost worthless.
The story is more complicated by a potentially large set of candidates that you have likely not considered. Assume that if you go out REAL hard in the 200, you will start fading by 140 and will fade badly. I have not seen it claimed that MJ's first 100 was the fastest ever for a 200m. On the other hand, a more measured first half leaves more for the second 100m. This implies that you need to look at a large number of races where someone went out way too hard, faded badly but still had a decent time. You might have to look at a 100 of these; look especially at lanes 6, 7 and 8 especially, since they are less affected by the curve and may overdo the first half because they cannot see the race unfold.
x-man's 19.63 where he came off the bend well down but stormed through down the straight?