You asked me to name the best player. Thus, I named one player. White americans can be and are good basketball players. You've not responded to my all-time team made of up Hall of Famers. I guess you didn't know they existed. I've shown you the light now go out and change the world.
Behonest wrote:
one...lol...that is pretty darn good....my mistake!
Since you are limiting it too Americans.
Off the top of my headv(in addition to whos already been mentioned)...
Kirk Hinrich
Kyle Korver
Jason Kapono
Brad Miller
Mike Miller
Steve Blake
Chris Kaman
Luke Walton
Jason Williams
Luke Ridnour
No superstars but all are good or great NBA players.
when I started this thread I made it clear i wasnt going talk about the pass(to cherry pick pass all stars) but wanted to hear some opinions about the present white american bb player and the their future in the sport! I think it is clear most whites do not have a chance!...there are exceptions but most are just what I stated earlier....except for rare exceptions
The problem I think lies in how the NBA game has transformed. It's more of a show now than a game. This is why you see a team of NBA players get their asses handed to them by foreigners. They can't play the game the way it should be played.
This is one this guys that just cant except it! Have you ever been to a jr high black inter school? Most of the blacks kids dunk or touch the rim by the time they are 14! Most white kids will never able to do this...this is just one example...there are many many more...Us "whites" are a funny bunch sometimes....we cant handle truth!
ps...that list above...not bad....but please dont have me list some aveage good/great black NBA players! It could take be a week!
Behonest wrote:
Have you ever been to a jr high black inter school? Most of the blacks kids dunk or touch the rim by the time they are 14!
All that talent & they can't shoot but 60% from the foul line.
Just reading your posts, you sound like an idiot. I'm not referring to the meaning of your posts. You might have a point there. Rather I mean the constant misspellings, poor word choice, and poor phrasing. I'm not one to correct grammar and punctuation usually, but this is just ludicrous. I am mildly surprised that you are capable of turning on a computer in order to post here.
jj REDICK will be a super star very soon.
You oughta be from southern Indiana where these little stubby little upper middle class white boys quit cross country, play basketball all year round then get beat first game of the sectional every year....whatta waste.
just think if the populatios was the other way around?
instead of 70 precent white and 14 percent black it was 70 percent black....Oh my god!... finding a white athlete would be like finding a Republican in hollywood!
Yes, it is the same in Class A basketball in Southern Illinois....In all those years not one player has make it to the NBA!
Actually, when the rules regarding traveling, palming, ups and downs etc are in force, black guys are generally awful. Witness their horrible play against teams in the WC's and Olympics the last decade or so. However, the rules are not enforced much in college or in the NBA at all so that the black players can wow the fans by taking off 8 feet away from the basket going for a dunk or dunking after taking 5 or 6 steps through a crowd of defenders - without dribbling. That's the way it is. Different strengths, and right now in the US they cater to black strengths - jumping far (not really high, but far) and straight-line running speed. If the rules are enforced and the game caters to shooting ability, free throw ability and true ball handling, then it tilts towards whites.
The pendulum swings back in forth in sports over the decades. Take a look at boxing. Today, from 160 lbs up, dominated by whites from Europe. From 154 lbs on down, dominated by hispanics from Mexico and Central America. American blacks are trumpeted in the media, but only a few of them are doing well against 'foreign' competition after they had a few decades of domination - just as the Italians and Irish had their runs at the top. This is most noticeable in the heavyweight division where fast hands and to be honest a hard head have been replaced for the most part by pure power and an ability to cut off the ring, which the Eastern Europeans have demonstrated. All the talk about US heavyweights being in the NFL are bunk, as there are more fighters in the US than ever. The problem for the US fighters is that there are now more fighters than ever from everywhere else. Fighters who haven't been brainwashed by the media to give up or be scared of blacks, like most whites in the US. The hispanics are tough as Hell and take it as an insult to lose to American blacks whom they think are big mouths who like to run away.
you are nuts!......I have never heard or read so much BS in my life!....maybe you where referring to black females vs white males......and remember blacks are only 13 or 14 percent of population!
I hope you are joking. Ok, so what if blacks are better on average in just basketball, football, or anything requiring exposive sprint speed? There are so many other sports out there that whites dominate in. Oh and cherry picking...the 2004 Olympic gold, silver, and bronze medalists in the High JUMP were all WHITE. Where were all the black guys huh?
And white men vs black WOMEN? HAHAHAHAHA...
Last time I checked white people rule and build the world we live in. As far as the games, let the animals have it. ok ok i shouldnt have said that last part, but... if we want to be assholes i can be one
Behonest wrote:
...and remember blacks are only 13 or 14 percent of population!
Or 0% in Argentina, who are the Olympic Basketball champions.
This should show you that there is nothing wrong with whites, per se, just American whites.
Of course, there's the other point that a large proportion of those 'blacks' are three quarters white, anyway. Or half white. Or quarter white. My point is, if someone who has a single drop of black blood in their system is not white, then it logically follows that someone who has a single drop of white blood is not black.
The whites are better athletes.... Whites dominate cycling, golf, soccer, hockey, swimming. Whites dominate certain events in the "black" sports like quarterback in football and pitching in baseball (let's face it, with the exception of the great Bob Gibson, blacks can't throw.) Blacks don't kick too good either as the best field goal kickers and punters are whites. If blacks started kicking field goals the media would be telling us how what phinomenal athletes these guys are.
While blacks dominate the sprints in track, the whites dominate the field events...whites are stonger too. The vast majority of champion weight lifters have been white. Skiing? Whities!
You see, the liberal American media has hoodwinked dopes like you....Ignore March Madness, watch the incredibly brave down hill skiers of Europe, whities one and all........