I took the liberty of removing all FL finalists and foreign athletes from the NCAA XC results. These are the guys who have succeeded in running off of purely hard work/excellent coaching as opposed to talent! The "poor man's" xc results:
3 562 Jess Baumgartner JR Southern Utah 5:52 15:19 24:34 30:53.2
9 35 Aaron Aguayo SR Arizona State 5:55 15:25 24:46 31:06.6
12 8 160 Brent Vaughn SR Colorado 5:59 15:35 25:03 31:13.0
15 353 Sean Quigley SR La Salle 5:53 15:27 25:01 31:20.0
21 11 129 Phillip Reid JR Cal Poly 5:57 15:38 25:04 31:24.2
26 14 351 Colby Wissel JR Kansas 6:01 15:48 25:20 31:34.3
30 189 Corey Nowitzke SR Eastern Michigan 5:53 15:37 25:14 31:36.5
31 501 Dan Mazzocco SR Penn State 5:52 15:31 25:16 31:37.2
33 292 Jordan Kyle FR Indiana 6:04 15:46 25:22 31:39.3
34 17 746 Christo Landry JR William & Mary 5:53 15:36 25:16 31:40.8
36 19 465 Patrick Smyth SO Notre Dame 5:56 15:38 25:17 31:41.7
39 529 Dave Nightingale JR Princeton 5:57 15:43 25:20 31:43.8
42 23 342 Paul Hefferon JR Kansas 6:02 15:48 25:22 31:47.7
44 25 60 Seth Summerside SR Arkansas 5:58 15:38 25:06 31:48.9
46 26 647 Jd Krawczyk SR UC Santa Barbara 5:59 15:49 25:27 31:54.1
50 70 Forest Braden SR Boise State 5:52 15:49 25:39 31:56.6
51 30 498 Pat Werhane SR Oregon 6:02 15:47 25:26 31:56.8
52 31 475 Joe Gray SR Oklahoma State 6:01 15:39 25:15 31:59.6
53 32 713 Jeremy Mineau JR Washington 5:53 15:36 25:22 32:00.0
54 33 603 Leonel Manzano SO Texas 6:03 15:51 25:31 32:00.8
58 36 660 Kyle Shackleton JR UCLA 5:55 15:45 25:32 32:04.5
60 37 743 Keith Bechtol SR William & Mary 5:52 15:41 25:29 32:07.0
65 42 718 Mike Sayenko SR Washington 5:58 15:52 25:41 32:11.9
66 43 328 Eric MacTaggart JR Iowa 5:54 15:44 25:34 32:12.2
67 44 604 Andrew Middleton SR Texas 6:03 15:52 25:38 32:12.2
68 45 588 Forrest Tahdooahnippa SR Stanford 5:54 15:39 25:36 32:12.6
75 89 Matthew Forys SR Bucknell 6:00 15:59 25:49 32:19.7
76 293 Justin Kunz SR Indiana State 5:55 15:49 25:45 32:20.4
80 54 508 Chuck McKenzie SR Portland 5:59 15:57 25:51 32:21.7
82 56 334 Micah Vandenend SR Iowa 5:52 15:40 25:38 32:23.6
85 59 659 Drew Shackleton SO UCLA 5:58 16:00 25:52 32:26.5
86 60 714 Carl Moe JR Washington 6:04 15:58 25:51 32:27.3
87 61 509 John Moore JR Portland 5:55 15:55 25:50 32:28.1
92 131 David Torrence JR California 6:08 16:07 25:57 32:31.2
96 69 745 Ian Fitzgerald JR William & Mary 6:01 15:52 25:49 32:34.9
97 70 397 Justin Zonotti SR Michigan State 6:05 15:59 25:52 32:35.7
99 72 674 Andrew Dumm SR Virginia 6:00 15:53 25:53 32:37.1
100 73 476 David Jankowski JR Oklahoma State 6:01 15:51 25:44 32:37.2
103 75 389 Matt Bartlebaugh SR Michigan State 6:08 16:08 25:59 32:38.0
104 76 581 Jacob Gomez SR Stanford 5:57 16:00 26:00 32:39.6
105 276 Ian Burrell JR Georgia 5:56 15:36 25:31 32:39.9
106 77 120 Kyle Perry SO BYU 5:52 15:45 25:50 32:40.4
108 79 748 Dave Mock JR William & Mary 6:06 16:10 26:04 32:40.9
109 80 205 Jeremy Criscione SO Florida 5:56 15:58 26:01 32:40.9
110 81 444 Stephen Furst JR NC State 6:01 16:03 26:01 32:41.8
111 82 117 Jacob Gustafsson SO BYU 6:11 16:14 26:06 32:41.9
113 84 513 Matt Sheeks SR Portland 6:01 16:00 25:54 32:42.5
114 85 443 John Crews JR NC State 6:00 15:56 25:56 32:42.9
116 87 256 Andre Laboy SR Georgetown 6:04 16:05 26:02 32:44.0
118 89 261 Justin Scheid SO Georgetown 6:04 16:09 26:07 32:46.1
I also tallied the scores for teams... Any team that was still able to field 5 guys was impressive.
William & Mary 88
Washington 157
Cal Poly 161
Michigan State 161
Texas 174
Portland 185
Oklahoma State 196
Kansas 214
UCSB 223
UCLA 223
Notre Dame 245
Iowa 245
Washington State276
BYU 278
Florida 281
"Blue collar" NCAA XC Results!
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You're definitely not serious, but since you took the time to tally results, I'll take the time to respond.
Every single one of the athletes at the NCAA cross country meet has talent. Even the guy from FSU who finishes dead last. And every single one of them works hard, regardless of if they were born in Kenya, America, Ireland or wherever. -
yea, you are a blue collar douche and most definately suffer from blue balls
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what's new with brooks wrote:
You're definitely not serious, but since you took the time to tally results, I'll take the time to respond.
Every single one of the athletes at the NCAA cross country meet has talent. Even the guy from FSU who finishes dead last. And every single one of them works hard, regardless of if they were born in Kenya, America, Ireland or wherever.
Oops, I'm sorry, Captain Politically Correct. Correction: These are the guys who have done more off LESS talent, and have had to work HARDER to get where they are. I removed foreign athletes because they don't get recruited unless they have posted some amazing times. -
I removed foreign athletes because they don't get recruited unless they have posted some amazing times.[/quote]
Just stop it...every time you open your mouth you sound dumber and dumber. Go back to your f***ing pig-farm, redneck. -
haha are you kidding me. If your going to go as far as making this stupid list.. why wouldn't you remove the sub 9 guys from HS also.. also sub 9:05 maybe?? maybe sub 9:10?
i feel bad that you wasted your time on such a list -
Every one of those guys does manual labor 40 hours a week to pay for college because they don't have scholorships and never ran a decent highschool time in their life!!!
Thats amazing!!!!
Actually, I commend you on creating the list... that took some blue collar work ethic to manually create it. -
Honestly few of these runners listed are "blue collar" they weren't prodigies, or hailed in highschool but still very talented runners.
also running is not a blue collar sport, i'm sure half of those kids have parents that are rich as hell, and they've never suffered a day in their lives. believe it or not running is not a poor mans sport. most highschool and college runners come from well off families, and so none of us are really all that blue collar, because i'm sure most of these kids fathers wear a white collar -
within the first five names on that list, i notice one guy who ran 8:45 in high school and another who was california state champ in the 1600 (4:08)...
well done, moron!!! -
92nd place is our downhill mile friend from cal
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Yeah, Brent Vaughn, Christo Landry, Colby Wissel, Leonel Manzano...Who's heard of these guys? Vaugn and Wissel were only sub-9 guys in HS, and Landry's 10th at Footlocker South his senior year obviously means he sucks. Good to see they've improved so much!
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Smyth from Notre Dame, isnt he from Canada?
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why'd you take out Galen Rupp?
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Because he went to Footlocker
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what's new with brooks wrote:
You're definitely not serious, but since you took the time to tally results, I'll take the time to respond.
Every single one of the athletes at the NCAA cross country meet has talent. Even the guy from FSU who finishes dead last. And every single one of them works hard, regardless of if they were born in Kenya, America, Ireland or wherever.
what about the guys that dropped out? -
Anyone who runs a 32-minute 10k on a cross country course has some talent.
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It's not being politically correct. This list is plain stupid. Somehow to think that a pasty white rich boy from the US is blue collar and a Kenyan athlete is not just makes me laugh. Maybe this guy is just trying to make a funny joke with this list.
I shouldn't be so hard on you. You are probably just a soft little American boy. All of the foreign athletes were born with tons of talent. In the US, we have to work hard. At this point we should break into singing Lee Greenwoods's "I'm Proud to be an American". Aaah, it's greta to be ignorant and an American! -
Jacob Gomez of Stanford-listed as 104th- was 10th at Footlocker Nationals.
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this is pretty weak reasoning on display here. a person can be extremely talented but underperform in high school.
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sam wrote:
Honestly few of these runners listed are "blue collar" they weren't prodigies, or hailed in highschool but still very talented runners.
also running is not a blue collar sport, i'm sure half of those kids have parents that are rich as hell, and they've never suffered a day in their lives. believe it or not running is not a poor mans sport. most highschool and college runners come from well off families, and so none of us are really all that blue collar, because i'm sure most of these kids fathers wear a white collar
Yeah, make a list of this:
Kids whose parents make less than 55,000$ a year.
I expect that within the hour.
