Solinsky Blasts Lananna

I applaud Chris' nuts, but Lanana was not all Stanford was. Stanford will remain a force. One man does not make a team. He created a legacy and it will not leave with him. Reilly is also not a lackey. As for Lanana - he was still coaching today.

Good for him.

I think there's some truth to the statement...happens all the time in other sports...

I'm curious where this came from...an interview perhaps? Just wondering if there's a way to see the whole context of the statement...

Solinsky has been posting on Spiker's runnerx site for several months. This was his entire post from today.

What about a coach doing what's best for him and his family sometimes? Coaches move around....that's just how it is in all sports and will continue to be that way. Rest assured the replacement will be worthy of the job.

Welcome to the real world. Change is constant. Take nothing for granted.

Who's blaming Lananna for making a career change? I'm sure Vin will be quite happy in Ohio and do a great job at Oberlin.

But you Stanford boys have yet to comment on Lananna's misleading promiseto Chris Solinsky. That is the point of this conversation.

Vin was/is a recruiting machine. All his success stems from that ability/will to recruit studs, near studs, and maybe studs. The only way a recruiting machine can be stopped is to pull its plug from the wall. That's what Vin did when he took the Oberlin job. Otherwise, chugga-chugga-chugga, the machine is on!

Coaching is a job. In any job, the assumption is, if something better comes along, you're going to take it. This is not feudalism - coaches are not bound to their schools. Even high school kids should know that.

Further, what was Vin supposed to do? He had no job offers, may not have even interviewed with Oberlin yet. It would be just as misleading for him to talk about taking a job that hadn't even happened yet.

Here's one for Solinsky: If Stanford offered Schumacher Vin's old job, you think he'd turn it down, just to make sure he can nurse you through your formative years?

Sure.....Vin is not Stanford just like McDonald isn't Arkansas. One man can make the difference!

Welcome to the real world.

Is there a link to that web site that has Solinsky's comments?

The truth is that this situation happens all the time in recruiting from BOTH sides. How about when a potential recruit tells a coach that school 'X' is their top choice, when, in fact, it isn't. Coaches get blasted for this all the time, but I never hear about the responsibility of the athletes to be honest with coaches...

I would ask Chris Solinsky if he was 100% forthright (not 'part-of-the-story,' half-truths, etc.) with every coach he dealt with - and don't misinterpret my statement here. I am simply asserting that recruiting is like any other sales job. There are multiple sides to every situation. I am not attacking Chris Solinsky's honesty. I have never met nor spoken to Chris Solinsky, but I am asserting with Chris as an example (since he stuck in his 2 cents on the Lananna issue) that the issue is not as one sided as he portrays it. I am sure that Lananna was not leaving at the time he recruited Chris Solinsky. In October, none of us are. But situations change and people change.

As for Chris's assertion that athletes should choose on gut or fit - that is ridiculous. You can't separate a coaches' impact from the equation when you are seriously looking at athletics as a piece of the puzzle. I would assume that what he was trying to say was that athletes should not solely consider the coach and aske themselves the question 'would I want to go to this school even if the coach wasn't here.' If not then they might re-consider their choice. But to totally factor out the coach from the equation is ludicrous, just as the assertion that Chris Solinsky would have gone to Wisconsin even if their program totally sucked and it "felt right" is completely ridiculous. If he follows his own statements to their logical conclusion, that is what he is saying... Not a chance - he can't have his cake and eat it too.

Finally, he should keep his mouth shut - I am sure the athletes at Stanford are in enough turmoil right now preparing to defend their NCAA title, looking for World Championships qualifiers, etc. that they don't need Chris Solinsky's opinion on their plight. I am sure they are painfully aware of their situation. Chris, get yourself ready to run in the fall and focus on what you need to do. And I hope Jerry doesn't leave anytime soon for your sake.

Actually, as an old HOG, I can tell you that McDonnell is Arkansas, just like at the time Lou Holtz was Notre Dame. With these coaches they win, without them, well...not such a sure thing. We'll see what the fall out is from the Vinny move.

Are you referring to the Lou Holtz who also coached the Jets, is currently kicking ass down at South Carolina and whom felt that every Notre Dame victory was a huge upset?

Poor analogy. Just because he once coached at Arkansas, doesn't mean that he is in the same league as McDonnell.

Typical hogspeak.

No offense to this great coach, because I fully support his decision to start Ad'ing. The fact of the matter is, when vin left for 6months to start the farm team he was on probation for a NCAA infraction. Which turned to be stanfords AD's fault. And you have to start some where, he didn't just become the coach at stanford, he had to work his way up there. But I can see if some recruits are upset, who do you think will take the job? I heard Gerard from W&M.

cry me a river,

Seriously, are you retarded? Read the post again. The analogy says John is Arkansas, and Lou is/was Notre Dame. Lou was a winner at Arkansas, at Notre Dame and is now at S.C. The analogy fits because Lou gets the job done, and John gets the job done. My analogy had nothing to do with Lou coaching at Ark. and everything to do with his time at N.D. Get a clue-the common ground is National Championships. I mean, I know I went to Ark., but your comprehension ability really seems to be lacking here.

Coaches apply to new jobs all the time. If they are constantly getting offers then it shows their university that they are desired, and gives them more job security. Lanana has probably applied for jobs and/or gotten offers for a long time without any intention of leaving Stanford. But then one comes along that looks really good and he decides to take it.

How many NCAA titles did Stanford win in Cross or Track before Vin? How many top recruits did they get before Vin? Vin leaving is great for Cal, UDoub, and others who wnat to recruit good students distance runners as many more will now be available. Gags should be the coach at Standford is you want the tradition to continue!!!Who coaches Lun and the farmers?

Get is Right On!