Posers on Magnolia Road

luv2run wrote:

Serious question: I live on the Front Range and a couple of friends would like to run Magnolia--yes, we want to go because of RWTB.

How does one get there? Where do you start? Where do you park? Etc.

I promise I will wave and even say hi if I can muster the energy.

Take HWY 36 into Boulder, turn left onto Canyon. Follow Canyon west out of town. Shorty after exiting the one and only tunnel in the canyon, turn left onto Magnolia Road at this point it is a steep paved road. Keep going up until the pavement ends. Park anywhere you can find a spot. Run west. There are state mile markers along the road.

BUMP

As I said, I can verify this training effort with other runners for you if you e-mail me, mainly because I don't wish to support the pussified anonymous bashing on this site. But it sounds like you're too snooty and arrogant to condescend to do so. (Pot-kettle-black). Plus if you are unable to glean any sort of input on your level of fitness from your workouts, you may want to reassess your training :P.

A 1:51 and change is decent (fine for me, anyway), I never said it was outrageous. 'Real' runners Culpepper and Barrios (in his hey-day), both 27-minute 10K guys, have the 'record' for that training run at 1:40 so it's not as though 1:51 is anything more than decent. It probably wouldn't even put me under 2:22 for a 'thon. I bet Paula R. could run close to 1:45 there.

I wasn't trying to gloat, was just kidding around with the initial poster in a friendly way. I'm sure most good distance runners can go near 1:50 for Mags. BFDIMHO. And the point is the poseur factor in Boulder. It does exist, but some guys are really cool too. Depends on who you run into on any given day.

Just time to drop in and say that I'm LMAO in here laid back Fort Fun!

Carl,

I don't get it. We ran Magnolia before any of you were born and thought that it was a p.o.s.. Much too dusty when the cars went by.

The next time you are feeling your oats, start at the bridge at the base of Flagstaff and run one hour. When you get to the split at the top of Flagstaff, stay left and go over Green Mountain and as far past Gross Reservoir as you can go. Have someone pick you up. Do once every 10 days.

The posers started long before you got to Boulder. Back in the day you knew everyone by their stride. Everyone gave the nod. Then Frank came to town, the Bolder Boulder started, and the noses went in the air.

"pussified anonymous bashing" Ha! I must finally got your attention. My intention here is asking for some REAL exchanges minus ego. If everyone was honest and real here I think there would be very little anonymous bashing.

SO no bash intended Keg...I'm also tired of been there done that BS that is oh so common to this site. I feel strongly that training times are extremely weak predictor of ability in a race. Heck, we all have known world beaters in practice....come game day they're chumps. So ANYBODY(not attacking you directly) saying something like you said that 1:51 might even be near a 2:22 marathon is simply BS. I feel it's simply feeble gloating to use training times as a documentable PR.....especially when they rarely can be verified. Besides what a waste of an effort to have your PRs be while training.

Trackrat wrote:

Just time to drop in and say that I'm LMAO in here laid back Fort Fun!

But you have to deal with Forrest Newman.

Flagstaff, AZ is better than Boulder, higher altitude runs, plenty of trails and a cooler setting.

GORDO wrote:

Flagstaff, AZ is better than Boulder, higher altitude runs, plenty of trails and a cooler setting.

Higher altitude runs? The highest peak in AZ is 12,600. I can see a 13er and a 14er outside my office window. Last weekend I ran at 11,900 over a pass ... (that would be the lowest spot around) ;-) This low spot is almost as high as the tallest peak in AZ.

JustinObservaion wrote:

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But you have to deal with Forrest Newman.

Hey, Forrest is cool, and in another year or two he's going to be a heck of a master's runner.

Trackrat wrote:

JustinObservaion wrote:

But you have to deal with Forrest Newman.

Hey, Forrest is cool, and in another year or two he's going to be a heck of a master's runner.

Forrest is goin' down! ;-)

How 'bout a showdown at the Shootout? We woulda coulda shoulda won the master's race in 01, but Peter, who has lived in USA for 15-20 years was not a USA citizen so they DQ'd us. Ooops, just a minor oversight. The plan is to get him soused on Fat Tire and then have him sign on for citizenship. Alas, the rest of us are getting old.

Hmmmm ... maybe, I have to "seek and destoy" at the Imogene Pass Run on Sept 6. When is the Shootout this year? First weekend in Oct?

Forrest has a couple of years on me ... but I'm not too far behind.

That's a hell of a run Buffy, but if you were doing it before I was born you have my condolences 'cuz I'm seeing 41 in a few months (j/k). And it'd take feeling those oats, along wtih some Powerbars, Fat Tires, Gatorade and a witch doctor to get me through that at any sort of legtitimate effort these days. I'd probably take a run at it some years ago but mentally at least I don't seem to be one of those new Masters' who is still near the top of their game akin to someone like Eddy. I can run hard for an hour, but not straight up a hill at altitude unless I feel really good.

And the climb up to Gold Hill might be as tough (an)aerobically, but not as hairy. I tend to roll my ankles as I tore some ligaments in soccer as a high school junior and they've always given me probs. As for the run itself, Magnolia is a bit disappointing in some senses now because of the self-absorbed, inconsiderate A-holes in V8 SUVs flying along at 65, churning up all sorts of crap in the air. I think that's probably on every dirt road in rural AMerica though. I rarely go up there unless it's 102 out in Boulder and I want cooler air. But you can get in a decent-cadence run at a higher altitude and I've always noticed how easy 5,400' elevation feels for a couple of days afterward. Also, most runners seem friendly enough and respect the effort. Perhaps some of the snooty ones are recent transplants.

Well, eye-ran, we'll just have to suck it up and agree to disagree on the merits of training runs and other related subjects. You said "1:51 ... PROVE IT!!" So I gave you an ample and reasonable opportunity to verify a training effort on Mags. And you're still whining about something. WTF? It's really a petty beef at this point. If you want to occupy your time and claim I didn't run that when I can show I did, you are entitled to believe what you will. As for me, eye'm done with this BS.

If you are 41 one keg then you need to grow up and get a life. Who cares what time you ran? Running is a personal thing and we all do what we can and no one is interested in what time you have ran in training. Bragging about times and comparing times is like being back at high school when you line up to race and the other kids ask you what time you can run. It's childish, which is why kids do it, not 41 year old men.

You don't show your years. This was in the early 70's.

runmatty wrote:

If you are 41 one keg then you need to grow up and get a life. Who cares what time you ran? Running is a personal thing and we all do what we can and no one is interested in what time you have ran in training. Bragging about times and comparing times is like being back at high school when you line up to race and the other kids ask you what time you can run. It's childish, which is why kids do it, not 41 year old men.

Blah, blah, blah. Plenty of people care, so speak for yourself. "running is a personal thing and no one is interested in ..." spoken like a true Gallowalker or someone who doesn't compete.

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I think I may have had an elusive One Keg sighting on the Boulder Creek Path around 6:00 on Tuesday ???

I thought that Wetmore brought running to Boulder.